[Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

Jan van Bekkum jan.vanbekkum at gmail.com
Wed Mar 25 22:53:00 UTC 2015

In Africa they are non-designated. We have had situations in Ethiopia and
Tanzania that the campsite was invented on the spot. The picture in the
proposal gives a feeling what I am talking about. The site is the parking
or the courtyard, no designated space. On the other hand lists are
circulating amongst overlanders with hotels offering this service.
Availability and quality can change quickly, therefore I don't want to mix
with regular campsites.

If a hotel has a permanent campground with amenities next to the hotel
building the run like a standard campsite it is not in the non-designated

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015, 23:03 David Bannon <dbannon at internode.on.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 20:42 +0000, Jan van Bekkum wrote:
> >
> > I really do want to keep non-designated as currently proposed. It was
> > my main reason to start with the proposal. I understand it is not
> > important in western countries, but it is vital in Africa and the
> > Middle East. It is a site with the opportunistic blessing and amenity
> > use of a hotel/ hostel, etc.
> I agree Jan, these things exist in Australia too. But I have to ask, are
> they really "non-designated" ?  I have used ones that sound pretty much
> what you describe. I'd think of them as having been "designated" by the
> land owner. Or at least loco parentis owner.
> In my category model, we are not describing anything about owner or
> business arrangements, we leave that to other tags. We describe only
> what is apparently there.  So, if its got toilets and water available
> via the adjoining business, its 'standard'. If not, 'basic'.
> David
> >
> >
> > Why do we need to keep trekking? Isn't it a special case of
> > unimproved? Summarized my preference is
> Yes, I suspect 'trekking' is the odd one out here and might be better
> dealt with in a subsequent proposal.
> >       * Designated
> >       * Unimproved (although I like the word Basic better)
> >       * Non-designated
> >       * Wild_camp_site: separate namespace tag for unimproved without
> >         blessing
> >
> I am uncomfortable with words like "designated", "unimproved" - they
> indicate we know far too much of the history and legal status of the
> site. Lets just stick to what we can see there now.
> David
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