[Tagging] On appointment restaurant

André Pirard A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com
Sat May 16 00:03:47 UTC 2015


On 2015-05-15 10:09, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote :
> On 14.05.2015 23:17, André Pirard wrote:
>> On 2015-05-13 16:49, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote :
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> This can already be done, no problem. It is even described on the key page [1].
>>> Just search for "on appointment".
>> Typical of that page, you discover "on appointment" by chance in an
>> example dealing with fallback.
>> I have read that page throughout 36 times, that's what one must do for
>> each question.
>> And you make me discover a very fundamental rule I didn't notice after
>> 36 readings: that the tokens can be literal strings. And I wonder how
>> software supposed to tell whether it's open can understand strings.
>> Thanks.
> Software is not supposed to evaluate comments in opening_hours (although there
> has been an discussion about this [2]). I just added an explanation for the use
> of comments [3]. I hope this helps.
The amazing is that I was told that opening_hours supports (just search)
"on appointment" and that after coding it I learn that what I have added
is a comment. And that the "fallback" '|| "on appointment" ' would in
fact be '||'.
> About the complexity:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/23332#comment27468
> You are welcome to write good documentation/tutorials for normal mappers.
It's far from the first time that I read "if you don't understand, write
the documentation".
On the other hand, I did write a simplified syntax
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours#Simplified_syntax> of
what I think I understand and which was applauded by the "normal
mappers" but someone had removed it and almost insulted me for doing that.
> The thing which really helped me to understand opening_hours in OSM was the
> syntax specification [4]. I would recommend everyone to try to wrap your head
> around it.
>
> [2]:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:opening_hours#women.2Fmen-only_days
> [3]:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours/specification#explain:comment
> [4]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours/specification
Thanks for any improvement.
I suggest (generally) that documentation said something like "anything
in quotes is a comment that can be considered as removed from the tag"
and only then gave examples.
This is because explaining syntax almost only with comments like the
opening_hours  page does may have the reader believe that comments mean:
the text in quotes may be displayed on the user screen if the preceding
part of the rule is true or something like that.

Cheers

André.



>
>
>>> Garbage detector software:
>> It's not the tagging errors that the QA tools usually detect.
>> I discovered 2 streets whose non missing buildings outlines were mapped
>> "à la Picasso".
>> Very nice from a 5 m distance in an exhibition hall, but hair-raising as
>> you watch close up.
>> I was wondering if there's more Picasso around and where.
>> I think I'll try searches by author's name.
>> Is award-winning rush-tagging OSM-like ?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> André.
>>
>>
>>> * http://openingh.openstreetmap.de/?setLng=en
>>> * https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_Assurance_Tools_script
>>>
>>> Checkout: http://openingh.openstreetmap.de/evaluation_tool/
>>>
>>> [1]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours
>
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