[Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

[Gerd Petermann]

Hi Hans,


that was my thought as well. I assume I have to check all the suspicious entries that

http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/highway#values


shows. The data is a bit out-aged now (2015-10-14 23:58 UTC)

as I am constantly cleaning up but I think 842 different highway=* tags

are far too many, both for consumers and for newbies.


Gerd

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Thanks for the examples, i definitely disagree with both examples. Makes no sense to have those at all to me. In my opinion they need to be reverted/deleted.

Regards,
Hans

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On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com<mailto:GPetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com>> wrote:


Oops, forgot to set the list on cc

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Example:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5987185

which is just the first best from 130 "highway=unbuilt" ways,

Its history shows that it was imported in 2007.


Just a few m south is another one:

<http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291>http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291

which doesn't have a long history but seems to be

exactly like it.


Gerd




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Do you have any examples?

On Oct 15, 2015 12:27 PM, "Mateusz Konieczny" <matkoniecz at gmail.com<mailto:matkoniecz at gmail.com>> wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:35:08 +0000
Gerd Petermann <gpetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com<mailto:gpetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com>> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> forgive me if this was discussed before:
> There seems to be a need to map highways which do not exist.
> I understand the idea that we map highway=proposed / highway=planned
> as this might be used to visualize a plan, I can also understand that
> we have tags like highway=dismantled and highway=razed (which seem to
> mean the same) but why do we have ways with
> highway=x-residential , highway=unbuilt ,  highway=neverbuilt, and
> several more with similar meaning ?
> They all seem to describe ways which where once added as normal
> highway=* to the database and later someone found out that there is
> no highway, but did not dare to remove the way.
>
> Is that meant to document something important?
>
> Gerd
>

Purpose of such objects is to ensure that armchair mappers will not
remap it again. Object with note=* seem better than highway=neverbuilt.

In case of low risk of remapping by armachair mappers such ways may be
safely deleted.

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