[Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

Hans De Kryger hans.dekryger13 at gmail.com
Sat Oct 17 00:26:47 UTC 2015


Let me know if you need any help.

*Regards,*

*Hans*

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On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Gerd Petermann <
GPetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Hans,
>
>
> that was my thought as well. I assume I have to check all the suspicious
> entries that
>
> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/highway#values
>
>
> shows. The data is a bit out-aged now (2015-10-14 23:58 UTC)
>
> as I am constantly cleaning up but I think 842 different highway=* tags
>
> are far too many, both for consumers and for newbies.
>
>
> Gerd
>
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> *Von:* Hans De Kryger <hans.dekryger13 at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 08:13
> *An:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?
>
> Thanks for the examples, i definitely disagree with both examples. Makes
> no sense to have those at all to me. In my opinion they need to be
> reverted/deleted.
>
> *Regards,*
>
> *Hans*
>
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> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Gerd Petermann <
> GPetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Oops, forgot to set the list on cc
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *Von:* Gerd Petermann
>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 07:21
>> *An:* Hans De Kryger
>> *Betreff:* AW: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?
>>
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5987185
>>
>> which is just the first best from 130 "highway=unbuilt" ways,
>>
>> Its history shows that it was imported in 2007.
>>
>>
>> Just a few m south is another one:
>>
>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291
>>
>> which doesn't have a long history but seems to be
>>
>> exactly like it.
>>
>>
>> Gerd
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *Von:* Hans De Kryger <hans.dekryger13 at gmail.com>
>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 01:09
>> *An:* OpenStreetMap
>> *Cc:* Gerd Petermann
>> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?
>>
>>
>> Do you have any examples?
>> On Oct 15, 2015 12:27 PM, "Mateusz Konieczny" <matkoniecz at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:35:08 +0000
>>> Gerd Petermann <gpetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > forgive me if this was discussed before:
>>> > There seems to be a need to map highways which do not exist.
>>> > I understand the idea that we map highway=proposed / highway=planned
>>> > as this might be used to visualize a plan, I can also understand that
>>> > we have tags like highway=dismantled and highway=razed (which seem to
>>> > mean the same) but why do we have ways with
>>> > highway=x-residential , highway=unbuilt ,  highway=neverbuilt, and
>>> > several more with similar meaning ?
>>> > They all seem to describe ways which where once added as normal
>>> > highway=* to the database and later someone found out that there is
>>> > no highway, but did not dare to remove the way.
>>> >
>>> > Is that meant to document something important?
>>> >
>>> > Gerd
>>> >
>>>
>>> Purpose of such objects is to ensure that armchair mappers will not
>>> remap it again. Object with note=* seem better than highway=neverbuilt.
>>>
>>> In case of low risk of remapping by armachair mappers such ways may be
>>> safely deleted.
>>>
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