[Tagging] Immigration, asylum, refugee centers

[Warin]

On 24/09/2015 12:56 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
> I too have wanted to raise the level of consciousness about these 
> offices. There are many in Thailand but their tagging is not uniform 
> and that makes them difficult to find.
>
> amenity=immigration_office might be a better choice IMO but either 
> would help the current situation.

office=immigration ?

There is already office=government ... but no sub tags! and the document 
for office=administrative suggest that office=government is for state 
government things. This is an American view.. the British do not do this 
- they have a 'central government' 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_United_Kingdom.


Perhaps
office=government
government=immigration ?

or
government:immigration=yes
would be better where the office functions are combined..
government:passport=yes
government:vehicle_licence=yes
etc...

The office=government is under represented in the OSM data base .. 
perhaps because there are no sub tags to further identify what it is 
used for.

> As for the name tag, I think it best to defer to the standard OSM 
> practice which is to provide the name in the local language and use 
> the name:en tag for the translated variety. Here in Thailand there are 
> many nationalities beside English speakers that make use of these 
> offices, among them are large numbers of  Burmese, Cambodians, 
> Germans, and Japanese.

+1
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, johnw <johnw at mac.com 
> <mailto:johnw at mac.com>> wrote:
>
>     I’ve been wanting to make a amenity=immigration because usually
>     foreign residents (and only foreign residents) go to such
>     facilities - so local mappers are usually unaware of their
>     existence or importance.
>

-1 for amenity.
>
>
>     These are places where people apply for new visas, extensions to
>     existing visas, and change from one visa type to another. Usually
>     regional ones cover mostly visa extensions for residents, whereas
>     a main office would cover the gamut from people looking for asylum
>     to people applying for new visas to be come residents in some
>     manner for work or marriage.
>
>     Finding the regional offices in your host country can be very
>     difficult if there is a language barrier - sometimes they are in a
>     giant government complex, sometimes they are a standalone facility
>     - but they should be very clearly marked. My old office was hidden
>     on the 3rd floor of a non-descript building next to a clothing
>     shop. Almost no signage helped you find it, until you were in the
>     lobby of the building.
>
>     These facilities are *not* border control nor passport
>     applications offices - as they deal only with the foreign people
>     living in their area. They might be in the same complex, but often
>     times they are not, and warrant their own tag.
>
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/36.32304/139.00155
>
>     This the building I have to visit in Japan for my residence visa
>     now. It is a small building run by the Justice Ministry, as the
>     program was recently transferred from customs to Justice (AFAIK).
>
>     They also have a small prisoner transfer center there, which gets
>     a rendered icon. This is the only office within 2 hours of travel
>     - so many thousands of foreigners have to come to this one office
>     every year or so from all over the region.
>
>     As an aside, I think we should suggest the name=* field to be the
>     defacto “foreign" language for the country, which would be English
>     for most of Asia (they standardize on english as a common
>     “foreign" language), which would be very helpful for the
>     foreigners having to visit there - as (in my case) no Japanese
>     citizen ever needs to visit nor care about the office (unless
>     married to a foreigner) - and the asian language scripts are often
>     unreadable to new foreign residents who are looking for the office
>     to visit.
>
>     The native language and others can of course be tagged as well,
>     but I think the facility should have it’s "foreign" language name
>     rendered first and foremost.
>
>     Javbw
>
>
>
>>     On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:10 AM, Blake Girardot <bgirardot at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:bgirardot at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     I am looking through taginfo and the wiki, but I don't see a good
>>     clear tag for immigrant/asylum/refugee "reception" centers.
>>
>>     These are usually government type facilities that process
>>     immigrants and refugees.
>>
>>     Some are also holding facilities, and some are just government
>>     offices.
>>
>>     They are separate and distinct from standard passport control or
>>     border check points.
>>
>>     Any suggestions?
>>
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> Chiang Mai, Thailand
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