[Tagging] How to tag cricket nets?

johnw johnw at mac.com
Tue Sep 29 04:05:48 UTC 2015


I’m very hesitant to mix “exercise” and “Practice”  in any way.

When I hear exercise, I think of aerobics or pull-up bars or something - like the exercise stations. Those are usually stand-alone facilities or small little constructions for the sole purpose of muscle training. 

These practice fields are for practicing a specific action of your sport (putting, pitching, hitting, running), but not the complete sport - or in rare circumstances, the actual race/event facility itself - eg: a sumo ring, is a common outdoor venue at temples in my town, but the sumo ring at my school is not a competition venue, it is just for training, and should not be marked as a stadium or venue, as that is misleading.

we might want to come up with a sub-key of pitch (leisure=pitch + pitch=practice), as they are still pitches, but a special version of pitches. prctice=* could contain a few values, but this idea might overlap with other keys (like golf=putting_green in golf to practice your putting skill). 

I’m not sure, but whatever the solution, we should keep it far away from “exercise”. I think leisure=exersise_station is a good value for those stations. Then an exersise_station=* for all the different kinds of stations (pull-up bars, sit-up bench, push-up bars, etc). I imagine there are 5-10 basic values - but my knowledge (and usage!) is very limited. 

Javbw


> On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have come up with
> 
> leisure=exercise?
> 
> exercise=cricket_nets  description: A fenced area where cricket batting and bowling can be practiced.
> 
> And then there can be other 'exercise'
> 
> exercise=exercise_station  example: small areas set aside in parks with features to provide specific exercises. Usually free.
> 
> exercise=fitness_center  example:An establishment with machines to improve physical fitness. Usually for a fee.
> 
> And so on ..
> 
> 
> Or ?
> 
> leisure=practice_pitch ?
> 
> sport=cricket, basketball etc ... this would indicate it is a
> practice pitch .. and that the full sport is played elsewhere.
> 
> This is more restrictive, not covering exercise stations etc.
> umm how about leisure:practice=* that would do track and pitch and could still use sport=
> 
> 
> On 29/09/2015 11:29 AM, johnw wrote:
>> Batting cages, putting greens, driving ranges, Pitching cages (usually behind a baseball stadium), and interestingly - horse practice tracks - have all come up in my mapping and faces similar issues.
>> 
>> There must be some way of saying this object is for practice, and then Identify the sport.
>> 
>> In places with horse racing (San Diego, CA and Narita, Japan), the surrounding region is usually full of horse ranches. Their horse stables often have small ovals around the grazing fields and horsewalkers to practice running the horses - but it is nota private racetrack - so I really hesitated to tag track on it (I put a circular pitch + sport=[horse something] on it).  The oval is just for running them, not actually racing them (no other horses are there to race), nor is the facility meant for racing - it is a training facility for the horses to be ready for visiting the actual racetrack.
>> 
>> Similar to a pitchers mound behind the stadium, a basketball hoop on a tree in the park, or a batting cage, It replicates part of the sport for the means of practice. We should have a generic tag for that, or a bunch of explicit tags to put on each type of facility/object.
>> 
>>  Some are lucky - golf=* has a ton of documented values, so it is easy to put specific values under - but others may not.
>> 
>> Javbw
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> These are used to warm up and practice Bowelling and batting for cricket.
>>> 
>>> Previously they were tagged leisure=pitch and sport=cricket_net ...
>>> 
>>> But someone has pointed out that this in not a sport...
>>> 
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dcricket_nets
>>> 
>>> so
>>> 
>>> sport_practice=cricket_net
>>> 
>>> A documented suggestion is to use sport=cricket, barrier=fence .. but the argument is it is NOT A SPORT so you cannot use sport= anything! :-P
>>> The suggestion is on
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sport
>>> 
>>> I'd think similar 'restrictions' will be imposed by the pedantic on other pitches that are only used for practice ..for example - half sized basketball courts - only used for practice .. not full sized due to space restrictions. So not a sport.. just practice.
>>> 
>>> There are similar concerns for sport=exercise, sport=fitness .. these too are not sports..
>>> 
>>> So .. what tag to use? leisure=pitch still suits.
>>> 
>>> nonsport= ? :-)
>>> 
>>> 
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