[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Internet cafe

Hakuch hakuch at posteo.de
Sat Feb 27 22:11:23 UTC 2016


@johnparis, I dont know why, but your emails always start a new
Mailinglist-thread, could you please change that :)


On 27.02.2016 18:33, Johnparis wrote:
> Thanks. I have changed the proposed tag to "lan_gaming_centre", conforming
> to the Wikipedia page.
> 
> I could find only four tags in the entire database that seemed relevant,
> and they were all "shop=online_gaming". Hardly a community consensus.
> 
> I note that "lan_gaming_centre" exceeds the suggested limit of 15
> characters. We could go with "lan_gaming" instead if that poses a problem.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 7:30 AM, <tagging-request at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:24:06 +0100
>> From: Johnparis <okosm at johnfreed.com>
>> To: tagging at openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [Tagging] [OKFILTER] Re: Feature Proposal - RFC -
>>         Internet cafe
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>> Thank you, Marco Antonio. What you describe is exactly what I am aiming for
>> here, and is pretty thoroughly covered by the proposal as currently
>> written, I think.
>>
>> The recharging of mobile phones is similar to the selling of phone cards. I
>> suppose if you had a shop that mostly did that, it could have its own tag,
>> but we already have shop=mobile_phone.
>>
>> I have added a line to the official proposal to note that you can use
>> multiple nodes to tag a shop that is truly multipurpose.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Marco Antonio <
>> marcoantoniofrias at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:59:41 +0100 Johnparis <okosm at johnfreed.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave, as you'll note in another email I just sent, I will drop gaming
>>>> centres from the Internet_cafe proposal. I have been to a couple of
>>>> these, and one didn't focus on Internet services, while the other
>>>> did. I suppose if you're looking for a gaming centre, you're probably
>>>> not looking for an internet cafe, and vice versa.
>>>
>>> In my city (central of south america) are very common the "internet
>>> cafe" with posible use for online gaming, identify this places is
>>> require by people to share this hobby or by people who want to use
>>> faster Internet (search info, tourists)...
>>>
>>> also, are very common the "internet cafe" with services: copy, print,
>>> scan, phone, fax. Especially with service:phone because these places
>>> sell the phone call service and recharges credit of cell phones
>>> (another service:?).
>>>
>>> In some places they may need a label to identify the "internet cafes"
>>> with private booths...
>>>
>>> Abrazos,
>>>
>>> Marco Antonio
>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 06:36:22 +0700
>> From: Dave Swarthout <daveswarthout at gmail.com>
>> To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"
>>         <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Tagging] [OKFILTER] Re: Feature Proposal - RFC -
>>         Internet cafe
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>> You might also change the first paragraph to discourage tagging the gaming
>> centers we mentioned earlier as internet_cafe. Here is a possible
>> replacement:
>>
>> Proposal:
>> Distinguish "internet cafés" (places that sell internet service) from cafés
>> (places that sell food and beverages) and "gaming centers" which offer
>> internet access as a sideline to their main businesses.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Johnparis <okosm at johnfreed.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you, Marco Antonio. What you describe is exactly what I am aiming
>>> for here, and is pretty thoroughly covered by the proposal as currently
>>> written, I think.
>>>
>>> The recharging of mobile phones is similar to the selling of phone cards.
>>> I suppose if you had a shop that mostly did that, it could have its own
>>> tag, but we already have shop=mobile_phone.
>>>
>>> I have added a line to the official proposal to note that you can use
>>> multiple nodes to tag a shop that is truly multipurpose.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Marco Antonio <
>>> marcoantoniofrias at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:59:41 +0100 Johnparis <okosm at johnfreed.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dave, as you'll note in another email I just sent, I will drop gaming
>>>>> centres from the Internet_cafe proposal. I have been to a couple of
>>>>> these, and one didn't focus on Internet services, while the other
>>>>> did. I suppose if you're looking for a gaming centre, you're probably
>>>>> not looking for an internet cafe, and vice versa.
>>>>
>>>> In my city (central of south america) are very common the "internet
>>>> cafe" with posible use for online gaming, identify this places is
>>>> require by people to share this hobby or by people who want to use
>>>> faster Internet (search info, tourists)...
>>>>
>>>> also, are very common the "internet cafe" with services: copy, print,
>>>> scan, phone, fax. Especially with service:phone because these places
>>>> sell the phone call service and recharges credit of cell phones
>>>> (another service:?).
>>>>
>>>> In some places they may need a label to identify the "internet cafes"
>>>> with private booths...
>>>>
>>>> Abrazos,
>>>>
>>>> Marco Antonio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Dave Swarthout
>> Homer, Alaska
>> Chiang Mai, Thailand
>> Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 01:20:54 +0100
>> From: Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
>> To: daveswarthout at gmail.com, "Tag discussion, strategy and related
>>         tools" <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Tagging] [OKFILTER] Re: Feature Proposal - RFC -
>>         Internet cafe
>> Message-ID: <E383863A-F499-4598-A919-C527D8B24C67 at gmail.com>
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>> sent from a phone
>>
>>> Am 27.02.2016 um 00:36 schrieb Dave Swarthout <daveswarthout at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Proposal:
>>> Distinguish "internet cafés" (places that sell internet service) from
>> cafés (places that sell food and beverages) and "gaming centers" which
>> offer internet access as a sideline to their main businesses.
>>
>>
>> I propose to use a more verbose tag than "gaming centre", e.g.
>> lan_gaming_centre or multiplayer_computer_gaming etc., something that will
>> get less confused with bingo halls or other kind of gaming or gambling
>> venues.
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>> Martin
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>> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 12:33:19 +1100
>> From: Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com>
>> To: tagging at openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [Tagging] [OKFILTER] Re: Feature Proposal - RFC -
>>         Internet cafe
>> Message-ID: <56D0FCDF.2050408 at gmail.com>
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>> On 27/02/2016 11:20 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> sent from a phone
>>>
>>> Am 27.02.2016 um 00:36 schrieb Dave Swarthout <daveswarthout at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:daveswarthout at gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>>> Proposal:
>>>> Distinguish "internet cafés" (places that sell internet service) from
>>>> cafés (places that sell food and beverages) and "gaming centers"
>>>> which offer internet access as a sideline to their main businesses.
>>>
>>>
>>> I propose to use a more verbose tag than "gaming centre", e.g.
>>> lan_gaming_centre or multiplayer_computer_gaming etc., something that
>>> will get less confused with bingo halls or other kind of gaming or
>>> gambling venues.
>>
>> computer_gaming might be 'best'?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 07:30:28 +0100
>> From: Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
>> To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"
>>         <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Tagging] [OKFILTER] Re: Feature Proposal - RFC -
>>         Internet cafe
>> Message-ID: <B221430C-8071-4048-B353-DB5C99C23BFD at gmail.com>
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>> sent from a phone
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>>> Am 27.02.2016 um 02:33 schrieb Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> computer_gaming might be 'best'?
>>
>>
>> It doesn't have the multiplayer or network aspect in it though, which I
>> would consider characteristic for the kind of place
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>> Martin
>>
>>
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