[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage amenity=public_building

Colin Smale colin.smale at xs4all.nl
Fri Jan 15 21:35:05 UTC 2016

How would you translate or apply these tags in e.g. the UK or the
Netherlands (my home countries)? What is a "state government"? What is a
"local government seat"? These things will mean different things to
different people. 

Although this is phrased a bit rhetorically, I do think we should be
aware that a description in one person's vernacular is not necessarily
clear to a diverse audience. A "town hall" is (to me) a bit archaic, but
I think many people would be able to answer the question "where is the
town hall?" for their home municipality. It will often be a historic
building, and may or may not be where the council chamber is, or where
the "mayor" or the head of the council has their office. So how do you
decide if a building is a/the Town Hall? 

And what would be an example of "an office of a local administrative
authority, not related to the state government"? I cannot imagine, maybe
someone can jog my brain in the right direction. 

As for building=public, well, words fail me. What is a "public
building"? A building to which the public has access? That's not an
attribute of the building, that needs an access=* tag. 

This kind of unclear semantics is exactly why I will vote to discourage
amenity=public_building. Let's not throw the baby out with the bath
water and suggest a replacement which is just as bad, if not worse.


On 2016-01-15 22:13, Warin wrote:

> On 16/01/2016 7:03 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: 
>> Hi all,
>> Based on the discussion arising from my previous message, it seems
>> that there is support to discourage the tag amenity=public_building.
>> I have therefore created a proposal page to explicitly mark this tag
>> as discouraged in the wiki:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Discourage_amenity%3Dpublic_building
>> Please let me know what you think.
> There should be a mention of tagging a feature as well as a function.
> So I would separate up the tags thus;
> ..."Some examples: 
> To tag a function;
> * office [1]=public [2] for an office of an agency or department of the national/state government.
> * office [1]=administrative [3] for an office of a local administrative authority, not related to the state government.
> * amenity [4]=townhall [5] for a local government seat.
> To tag a feature; 
> * building [1]=public [2]  for a public building.
> * building [1]=school [3] for a school.
> "
> ?
>> -- Matthijs
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tagging mailing list
>> Tagging at openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
> _______________________________________________
> Tagging mailing list
> Tagging at openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:office
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dgovernment
[3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dadministrative
[4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity
[5] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtownhall
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/attachments/20160115/dd7969a0/attachment.html>

More information about the Tagging mailing list