[Tagging] [Talk-us] shop=chemist as "Drugstore" for Walgreens, CVS, Rite Aid, etc.

Jack Burke burkejf3 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 6 05:31:22 UTC 2016

Interesting. I've been tagging most large pharmacies as shop=convenience and amenity=pharmacy since I tend to think of them as convenience stores as much as pharmacies. 


Typos courtesy of fancy auto spell technology

On July 5, 2016 1:08:26 PM EDT, Peter Dobratz <peter at dobratz.us> wrote:
>After arriving at a local drugstore chain with a prescription in hand,
>walking past the shampoo aisle, only to find that the pharmacy counter
>closed for the day, I've been updating tagging of drugstores and
>as described here.
>For example, there is a Walgreens:
>The building outline has shop=chemist.
>Inside the building, there are 2 Nodes, one for the pharmacy and one
>for a
>In this case, all of these entities have different opening hours. 
>contact info like phone and website may be different as well.
>For the older style independent pharmacy, I do still use
>on the building outline:
>They do sell a few items like bandages without a prescription, but they
>don't have the extensive personal hygiene section of typical of the
>drugstore chains.  The pharmacist is also on duty for the entire time
>shop is open, so it doesn't feel like there are two separate entities
>operating in the space.
>On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Minh Nguyen
><minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us>
>> Recently, iD was changed so that shop=chemist is labeled as
>> for American English users (and continues to be labeled "Chemist" for
>> British English users). [1] An American mapping a Walgreens, CVS, or
>> Aid who searches for "drugs" will see the following choices, in
>> * Drugstore (shop=chemist, marked with a shopping cart icon)
>> * Pharmacy (amenity=pharmacy, marked with a pill bottle)
>> Meanwhile, searching for "pharmacy" -- a synonym of "drugstore" in
>> American English -- produces only the amenity=pharmacy preset.
>> The rationale is that amenity=pharmacy should be used only for
>> counters (which can be found at both drugstores and inside
>> while shop=chemist should be used for full-service drugstores that
>> contain pharmacy counters. Currently, this is at odds with the wiki
>> longstanding practice, which stipulates that a shop=chemist *may not*
>> prescriptions.
>> This change to iD came about due to a discussion in the Name
>> Index project, which is the component in iD that suggests tags when
>> fill in a commonly used name. [2] I happened to notice the change
>> it caused Transifex to prompt me to update iD's Vietnamese
>localization. To
>> my knowledge, there has been no discussion on the mailing lists or
>> proposal on the wiki, though the iD maintainer intends to edit the
>wiki to
>> match iD's interpretation. iD is the only software that has made this
>> change.
>> On the one hand, I've come around to liking the proposal, because it
>> it easier for data consumers to distinguish between pharmacy counters
>> full-fledged drugstores. On the other hand, I think it's problematic
>> because an American mapping a Walgreens or CVS could potentially tag
>> "drugstore" and be unaware that they'd need to separately map the
>> counter in order to indicate that prescriptions may be filled
>> Currently, amenity=pharmacy is far and away more common than
>> in the U.S. as a way to tag drugstores. Certainly anyone retagging
>> amenity=pharmacy to shop=chemist would be careful to add an
>> amenity=pharmacy POI where the pharmacy counter would be. (For a
>> Walgreens or CVS, it'd be next to the drive-through canopy.) However,
>> have little faith that the average iD user would know to do the same,
>> the word "drugstore", like "pharmacy", implies the sale of
>> drugs.
>> I've hashed out many of these points in [3], but I think the
>> needs to involve the wider OSM community now. There's little chance
>of data
>> consumers and other editors updating their logic if the change is
>> discussed in the iD project.
>> [1] https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/3201
>> [2] https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/issues/30
>> [3] https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/3213
>> --
>> minh at nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us
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