[Tagging] Snowmobile routes

Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhauser at gmail.com
Tue Sep 27 16:30:28 UTC 2016

Minnesota has a bunch too.
http://dnr.state.mn.us/snowmobiling/interactive_map/index.html  I'm sure
it's the same for other states. I personally don't snowmobile but have just
noticed many ways tagged in OSM since they sometimes follow bike routes. :)

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny+osm at gmail.com>

> I agree that route=snowmobile makes more sense. Since there were exactly
> zero uses of the tag in the US, I missed it entirely. (Then again, I don't
> know how many jurisdictions have numbered snowmobile routes overlaid on the
> highway and trail networks!)
> Are we agreed, then, on the following?
>    - roles should be the same as for route=road
>    - name, network and ref should be filled in where available. In
>    general, either a name or a network/ref pair is expected.
>    - US:NY:snowmobile:corridor and US:NY:snowmobile:secondary are
>    reasonable choices for the network
> If I don't hear cries and screams, expect a proposal on the Wiki at some
> point. (I also haven't abandoned access=permit, just gotten sidetracked on
> some actual mapping and haven't got back to it yet.)
> Incidentally, US:NY:snowmobile:corridor and US:NY:snowmobile:secondary
> form an extensive network of about 15000 km. There's a route map at
> http://www.nysnowmobilewebmap.com/webmap/ The numbered routes are in red
> (corridor) and orange (secondary). Blue are un-numbered routes belonging to
> local clubs. The underlying GIS data that were used for that map are free
> for us to use, but I do NOT propose an import because they don't meet my
> standards of data quality. Just to begin with, they are digitized at an
> inappropriately small scale.
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Brad Neuhauser <brad.neuhauser at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>> It may not be "officially recognized" but route=snowmobile is used some
>> [0], and IMHO makes a lot more sense than route=road!
>> [0] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/route=snowmobile
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny+osm at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>> I thought sure that I had raised this question before, but a quick troll
>>> through the archives doesn't seem to show it.
>>> New York State has an extensive network of designated snowmobile routes,
>>> intended to be long-distance continuous paths. In some cases, they follow
>>> highways, or logging roads on state land. In other cases, the state offers
>>> grants to private landowners to maintain the route, funded out of
>>> snowmobile registration fees. (At least that's my understanding of how the
>>> system works. I'm not a snowmobilist). Except where the route is groomed
>>> alongside a highway (or sometimes on the highway - not all our roads are
>>> open to motor vehicles in winter), other motor vehicles are ordinarily
>>> forbidden.
>>> These routes are marked with a highway shield, with reassurance markers
>>> at intervals. There are even two tiers of routes: 'corridor' and
>>> 'secondary'. Both are long-distance routes, so they are not appropriate for
>>> the name=* field on a track or path. (Example: Haul Road No. 1 in the Dutch
>>> Settlement State Forest is blazed for both the New York Long Path
>>> (route=hiking) and Snowmobile Corridor Route 7B. A highway shield on a
>>> snowmobile route looks like https://flic.kr/p/nPeMwe.
>>> We don't (yet?) have a 'route=snowmobile' officially recognized. What I
>>> used recently when a hike (gathering map data for something else) took me
>>> for a while on a snowmobile corridor was 'route=road
>>> network=US:NY:snowmobile:corridor ref=7B'. (If it had been a secondary
>>> route, it would of course have been US:NY:snowmobile:secondary.) I feel a
>>> little uncomfortable about route=road, which seems to be tailored for motor
>>> vehicles, but the tagging would be in all ways the same - type, network,
>>> route, ref are all there, and even most of the roles are possible (there
>>> are link trails, for instance, providing access to nearby highways, or
>>> places where a route splits into a one-way pair).
>>> Does this sound plausible?
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