[Tagging] Toll road sections
André Pirard
a.pirard.papou at gmail.com
Mon Aug 28 20:11:21 UTC 2017
On 2017-08-28 18:42, marc marc wrote:
> Please avoid creating a new key like toll_ref
> All references refer to something, but we don't create road_ref,
> shop_ref, hydrant_ref, building_ref, we just use "ref" key
> sometimes with a subname HU for the country (in capital)
> sometimes with another subname for the source name
>
> If you really want to add the word "toll",
> maybe something like ref:HU:toll:edid=123456
>
> Regards,
> Marc
It would obviously be toll:ref:HU:edid=123456 then.
It's the ref of the toll, and not the toll of the ref.
ref is an attribute of toll and not toll an attribute of ref.
Qualifiers come to the right of qualified terms when using name spaces.
Strangely enough, when I advocate using name spaces like Marc does,
someone pops up and says: "you again? it's not the way we do it".
But he never said who "we" is.
Please use HTML when replying to HTML to avoid messes like below.
Cheers
André.
> Le 28. 08. 17 à 18:22, Jo a écrit :
>> I would use the following:
>>
>> toll=no
>> toll:hgv=yes
>> toll_ref:HU:edid=123456
>>
>> That's the easiest to query for later on.
>>
>> You can add contents to existing wiki pages.
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>> 2017-08-28 16:35 GMT+02:00 Dömötör Ákos :
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I won't mess with the generic "toll" tag because some of the roads
>> are highways with tolls for all vehicle types so I'd leave them as
>> they are.
>> Naturally, I was already planning to add the "toll:hgv=yes" for each
>> road in question.
>>
>> Of the two proposed tags, "toll_ref=HU_edid_123456" seems to be more
>> specific than "ref:hu:edid=123456" so I'd prefer the first one.
>> However, creating an OSM Wiki page for a new tag (like "hu:edid") is
>> a clean issue. But where to put this information in case of "toll_ref"?
>>
>> Greets
>>
>>
>> Hi Ákos,
>>
>> I would do this : "toll=hgv_only" and "toll_ref=edid_123456" or
>> "toll_ref=HU_edid_123456"
>> (according to the wiki, it should not be toll=hgv_only but :
>> *toll*=no, *toll*:hgv
>> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hgv
>> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hgv>>=yes)
>>
>> 2017-08-28 12:30 GMT+02:00 Topographe Fou
>> <letopographefou at gmail.com <mailto:letopographefou at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:letopographefou at gmail.com
>> <mailto:letopographefou at gmail.com>>>:
>>
>> I'm not aware of other toll systems but official country
>> references are tagged using the prefix ref:XX where XX is the
>> country code. Note that HU represent the country and hu the
>> language (see ISO codes). So your prefix would be ref:HU.
>>
>> LeTopographeFou
>>
>> Message original
>> De: Domotor.Akos at itineris.hu
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>> Objet: [Tagging] Toll road sections
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The road toll system for HGVs has sections in Hungary.
>> There are appr.
>> 2400 of such sections in a varying length from 100 metres
>> to 13 kms.
>> We'd like to tag roads with the corresponding toll ID. The
>> base tag
>> would be "edid" as the official files use this field name.
>> The question is how we should use it. As it's only Hungarian, a
>> "hu:" or
>> "hu:ref:" namespace prefix may be appropriate.
>> Furthermore, it's only for HGVs so inserting "hgv:" might be
>> sensible as
>> well.
>>
>> Are there any other local toll systems that already use some
>> tagging? We
>> could use the same format/logic then.
>>
>> Greets,
>> Ákos
>>
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