[Tagging] Tagging for Pipe Line Reserves

Ross Scanlon info at 4x4falcon.com
Wed Feb 8 10:44:22 UTC 2017


This is the aerial imagery of the area the original poster is talking about:

https://binged.it/2kN1tfC

To all intents it could be a park.

In osm it's at:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073

Cheers

Ross



On 08/02/17 19:51, Dave Swarthout wrote:
> Yes, I see now you're asking about the land that the pipeline either 
> runs over or through.
>
> I would avoid the term reserve, however. I generally think of a 
> reserve as a larger area, often a park or historic area, e.g., the 
> Gabo Island Lighthouse Reserve in Canada or the Hinchinbrook 
> Lighthouse Reserve, which is a Park in Valdez-Cordova County, Alaska. 
> There is also this reserve which is related to your illustration; the 
> huge area known as the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska, but I 
> would not want it to be confused with your tagging targets.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Petroleum_Reserve%E2%80%93Alaska
>
> Maybe landuse=pipeline would be a good pick?
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com 
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 08-Feb-17 06:51 PM, François Lacombe wrote:
>>     Hi Warin,
>>
>>     Do you have pictures of such areas plz ?
>>
>>     I don't see anything corresponding to 'reserve'
>>
>>     All the best
>
>     Not personally ... and it is a fair way away. As I say .. reported
>     on the Australian group.
>     I assume there is a sign locally to advise on the 'pipeline 
>     reserve'.
>
>     Gas pipe lines cover fair distances in Australia ..
>
>     One line is 1,300 km here
>     https://www.apa.com.au/our-services/gas-transmission/east-coast-grid/moomba-sydney-pipeline/
>     <https://www.apa.com.au/our-services/gas-transmission/east-coast-grid/moomba-sydney-pipeline/>
>
>     The reserve might be up to 25 meters wide from
>     https://www.seagas.com.au/safety/ <https://www.seagas.com.au/safety/>
>     Photo of their warning sign
>     http://www.seagas.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/danger.jpg
>     <http://www.seagas.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/danger.jpg>
>     I have seen similar signs for gas and fibre optic lines in my
>     wanderings, some warning of a restriction in use of area above the
>     line - thus advising of a restrictive reserve.
>
>     There will be local storm water, potable water lines too.
>     Long distant buried communication lines too, a number over 8,500
>     km. At least some of these will have 'reserves' evident on the
>     surface.
>
>>
>>     Le 8 févr. 2017 08:24, "Warin" <61sundowner at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>
>>         That tags the pipe line itself.
>>
>>         The request is to tag the area set aside for a pipe line ...
>>         a reserve.
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 08-Feb-17 04:38 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
>>>         There is already a tagging structure for pipelines that
>>>         takes into account whether it's underground or overground. See
>>>
>>>         http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8964252
>>>         <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8964252>
>>>
>>>         for a section of the Trans Alaska Pipeline. However, the
>>>         land area above the pipeline, which is restricted for casual
>>>         access throughout Alaska, has no special tagging.
>>>
>>>         On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hi,
>>>
>>>             A question came up on the Australian list that would be
>>>             more appropriate here.
>>>
>>>             "My local area (and I'm sure many others) have lots of
>>>             pipeline reserves.
>>>
>>>             I'm really not sure how to tag these. They appear to have
>>>
>>>             public access for walking at least. (One local one has a
>>>             sign
>>>             disallowing golf...) Some others appear to be across private
>>>             land, and i'm less interested in those, I'd really like to
>>>             show those ones with public access.
>>>
>>>             examples:http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073
>>>             <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073>
>>>
>>>
>>>             I've tagged them as leisure=park previously, and paths
>>>                       evident on the ground have just been tagged
>>>             highway=path.
>>>
>>>
>>>             Any ideas?"
>>>
>>>             My comments:
>>>
>>>             I note the pipeline is not visible ... I assume
>>>             underground and the
>>>             location is not evident so you cannot map the pipe line
>>>             itself.
>>>
>>>             As it is a landuse ... ?
>>>             I would tag landuse=pipeline
>>>
>>>             However ... some pipe lines cross farms, residential
>>>             areas ...  these have legal easements through the
>>>             associated properties.
>>>             And these would be already tagged with a landuse.
>>>
>>>             Humm power lines are mapped ... should there be similar
>>>             provision for other infrastructure?
>>>             Perhaps a 'infrastructure' tag that can be used for all?
>>>             infrastructure=pipeline
>>>             infrastructure=sewer
>>>             infrastructure=water
>>>             infrastructure=phone
>>>
>>>             Note it should be used for the area that is affected
>>>             by/reserved for the infrastructure, not just the
>>>             infrastructure itself?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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