[Tagging] Tagging for Pipe Line Reserves

Dave Swarthout daveswarthout at gmail.com
Wed Feb 8 12:02:04 UTC 2017


Thanks Ross,

It *might *be a park but we can't be sure. The mapper only says
source=Bing. For all we know he's merely making an educated guess. His
changeset comment suggests he has also added some "pipeline reserves"
although a quick look doesn't turn any up.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Ross Scanlon <info at 4x4falcon.com> wrote:

> This is the aerial imagery of the area the original poster is talking
> about:
>
> https://binged.it/2kN1tfC
>
> To all intents it could be a park.
>
> In osm it's at:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073
>
> Cheers
>
> Ross
>
>
>
> On 08/02/17 19:51, Dave Swarthout wrote:
>
> Yes, I see now you're asking about the land that the pipeline either runs
> over or through.
>
> I would avoid the term reserve, however. I generally think of a reserve as
> a larger area, often a park or historic area, e.g., the Gabo Island
> Lighthouse Reserve in Canada or the Hinchinbrook Lighthouse Reserve,
> which is a Park in Valdez-Cordova County, Alaska. There is also this
> reserve which is related to your illustration; the huge area known as the
> National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska, but I would not want it to be
> confused with your tagging targets.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Petroleum_Reserve%E2%80%93Alaska
>
> Maybe landuse=pipeline would be a good pick?
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 08-Feb-17 06:51 PM, François Lacombe wrote:
>>
>> Hi Warin,
>>
>> Do you have pictures of such areas plz ?
>>
>> I don't see anything corresponding to 'reserve'
>>
>> All the best
>>
>>
>> Not personally ... and it is a fair way away. As I say .. reported on the
>> Australian group.
>> I assume there is a sign locally to advise on the 'pipeline  reserve'.
>>
>> Gas pipe lines cover fair distances in Australia ..
>>
>> One line is 1,300 km here https://www.apa.com.au/our-ser
>> vices/gas-transmission/east-coast-grid/moomba-sydney-pipeline/
>>
>> The reserve might be up to 25 meters wide from
>> https://www.seagas.com.au/safety/
>> Photo of their warning sign http://www.seagas.com.au/wp-co
>> ntent/uploads/2014/01/danger.jpg
>> I have seen similar signs for gas and fibre optic lines in my wanderings,
>> some warning of a restriction in use of area above the line - thus advising
>> of a restrictive reserve.
>>
>> There will be local storm water, potable water lines too.
>> Long distant buried communication lines too, a number over 8,500 km. At
>> least some of these will have 'reserves' evident on the surface.
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 8 févr. 2017 08:24, "Warin" <61sundowner at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> That tags the pipe line itself.
>>>
>>> The request is to tag the area set aside for a pipe line ... a reserve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08-Feb-17 04:38 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
>>>
>>> There is already a tagging structure for pipelines that takes into
>>> account whether it's underground or overground. See
>>>
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8964252
>>>
>>> for a section of the Trans Alaska Pipeline. However, the land area above
>>> the pipeline, which is restricted for casual access throughout Alaska, has
>>> no special tagging.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> A question came up on the Australian list that would be more
>>>> appropriate here.
>>>>
>>>> "My local area (and I'm sure many others) have lots of pipeline
>>>> reserves.
>>>>
>>>> I'm really not sure how to tag these. They appear to have
>>>>
>>>> public access for walking at least. (One local one has a sign
>>>> disallowing golf...) Some others appear to be across private
>>>> land, and i'm less interested in those, I'd really like to
>>>> show those ones with public access.
>>>>
>>>> examples:http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-
>>>> 38.15997/145.20073
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've tagged them as leisure=park previously, and paths
>>>>           evident on the ground have just been tagged highway=path.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?"
>>>>
>>>> My comments:
>>>>
>>>> I note the pipeline is not visible ... I assume underground and the
>>>> location is not evident so you cannot map the pipe line itself.
>>>>
>>>> As it is a landuse ... ?
>>>> I would tag landuse=pipeline
>>>>
>>>> However ... some pipe lines cross farms, residential areas ...  these
>>>> have legal easements through the associated properties.
>>>> And these would be already tagged with a landuse.
>>>>
>>>> Humm power lines are mapped ... should there be similar provision for
>>>> other infrastructure?
>>>> Perhaps a 'infrastructure' tag that can be used for all?
>>>> infrastructure=pipeline
>>>> infrastructure=sewer
>>>> infrastructure=water
>>>> infrastructure=phone
>>>>
>>>> Note it should be used for the area that is affected by/reserved for
>>>> the infrastructure, not just the infrastructure itself?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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