[Tagging] Missing oneway:bicycle=no

Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com
Wed Feb 15 11:29:42 UTC 2017


2017-02-15 10:27 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com>:

> I do read the wiki page
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway
> differently.
> I read it to mean that the "opposite" refers to the opposite *direction*
> in which bicycles can travel on roads marked as oneway for vehicles
> (oneway=yes)
>


yes, you're right. Actually cycleway=opposite_lane leaves a bit of
ambiguity whether there is also a cyclelane for the direction of the
oneway, that's why the wiki suggests to use cycleway:left and
cycleway:right instead.

Somehow the approach of tagging lanes or tracks on the main highway comes
to limits anyway.

E.g. here:
https://www.google.it/maps/@52.5442916,13.3897153,3a,75y,250.94h,82.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSMhQ_UavSBhrcCv05sNO4Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

this sign is bicycle=no
but there is a cycleway on both sides (initially at least):
https://www.google.it/maps/place/Berlin,+Deutschland/@52.5446112,13.3908026,3a,60y,222.45h,79.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seDtJTH_4VZ2yZpw9lGS-jA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x47a84e373f035901:0x42120465b5e3b70!8m2!3d52.5200066!4d13.404954!6m1!1e1

and on the southern side there is a cycle (lane or track) for the whole
length:
https://www.google.it/maps/@52.5433703,13.386435,3a,65.1y,93.29h,70.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snF9guRz78uWjB9yic1wmdA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

Likely you'd need to tag cycleway:bicycle:right=yes or something like this,
but chances are good people will not get this right, while it's a nobrainer
map the cycleway and access correctly as a distinct osm way.

There is no explicit cycleway signage (except the bicycle=no on one side of
the road), but it looks like cycleways (this is the other end of the road):
https://www.google.it/maps/@52.5422296,13.3828561,3a,75y,58.68h,86.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK_RQOPu8XXzM1dKPazeLNQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

So one interpretation could be: oneway only for bicycles and only for part
of the road length, otherwise cyclelane and cycletrack (depending where you
look at it).

In OSM we don't have any cycleinfrastructure in this road yet.

Cheers,
Martin
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