[Tagging] Potential proposal for more detail in old_ref=*?

[Richard Welty]

On 2/27/17 4:58 PM, yo paseopor wrote:
>
> OK, with new tags, with new values, with new behaviour, but not
> outside OSM data because if there would be another "accident" or
> unafortunate facts the information will be inside OSM and other can
> start another render with these information. 
>
if we do our backups properly, then data will not be lost again. the
goal is for
backups to be in a number of places, separate from the main server, and
tested
so we are sure they're good.
> Think about Wikipedia: is wikipedia divided in kinds of information?
> All are at the same system, You have some portals but all the
> information is at the same place (for this reason an image in
> wikipedia is uploaded to commons).
> Historic information is so important...that I think all has to be at
> the same place (data). Renders is other thing, you can make whatever
> you want, featuring the information you want to. 
>
>
>     so from my point of view, keeping the historic data in its own
>     place is
>     part of
>     trying to keep OSM peace. did we have some problems? yes. are they
>     correctable?
>     yes. i think some lessons have been learned, but our takeaway is very
>     different
>     from yours.
>
>
> I don't know what is your takeaway. I'm a user, I'm a mapper, I'm a
> man who loves the history and I want that all my possible future work
> and the others won't be lost, and will be accessible...forever.
> Because that is about history. So more information, more historical
> information about refs would be interesting in OSM with the correct
> keys and values.
>
>
in the past many OSM users have expressed hostility to trying to load up all
this historic data in OSM. none of them have spoken up so far; hopefully
they
will do so and express their concerns & objections in an appropriate manner
(tagging is not always a friendly list, but this discussion has been
friendly so
far and hopefully it stays that way.)

richard

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