[Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Thu Jan 12 06:14:25 UTC 2017


On 12-Jan-17 04:45 PM, Marc Gemis wrote:
> I thought that someone told me it has to be something like
>
> crop=tomato (for fields)
produce=tomato is also correct. There are things called 'produce 
markets' where fresh produce is sold. Humm looks like the term 'Farmers 
Market' is more popular. Wikipedia has a fair amount of produce 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Produce
> produce=milk (some human intervention)
> product=handbag (a lot of human/machine handling)
>
> but I'll admit that there are a lot of grey/gray areas (what is a lot
> ?). But that's life, nothing is just black and white.
>
> m.
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:17 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12-Jan-17 03:22 PM, Marc Gemis wrote:
>>
>> I thought crop was for farmland, produce for factories in case of
>> "natural" products such as dairy related goods. and product for
>> factories in case of more man made products such as hifi, cars, etc.
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>> Note the 'ce' on the end of 'produce' compared to the 't' on the end of
>> 'product' ... sorry about how close they are.
>>
>> Dictionary definition of produce;
>>
>> Agricultural and other natural products collectively
>>
>> -------------------
>> As such it includes 'crop' type things.
>>
>> Crops are not animals .. like beef, fish. But fish and beef are both
>> produce, hence produce is a wider definition, includes more things.
>>
>> The difference between produce and product .. is difficult!
>>
>> A product I take to be something that has been modified from its natural
>> state ..
>> Crocodile, defiantly a produce, changed to a handbag is, as a handbag,
>> defiantly a product.
>> Shelled peanuts have had some work on them .. is that amount of work enough
>> to change them from a produce to a product? Flip a coin.
>> If the shelled peanuts are sugar coated then they are, to me, a product.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Following on from landuse=grass .. I have been looking at appropriate tags
>> for those areas used to actually produce grass ... or sod .. or turf as 2
>> other words.
>>
>>
>>  From the wiki I first got crop .. which suits. Further searching got produce
>> which also suits. I then looked at the usage - crop wins, and then the
>> values ...product looks much more diverse .. thinking abut it .. produce
>> encompass crops. I think the reason why crops is winning over mappers is the
>> wiki page documentation ..
>>
>>
>> So I have added 3 tables to the wiki produce page; aquaculture, farm and
>> forestry.
>>
>> Some of these are present values from both produce and crop usage.
>>
>> I have tried to organise the farm entries into major groups - flowers and
>> beans all together for example. There may be others that can be usefully
>> combined too.
>>
>> See what you think ... these are all additions.
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:produce
>>
>>
>> Changes to the produce page ...
>> Shop I have added the comment that these sell things .. they don't produce.
>> They may sell farm produce .. but they still don't produce it themselves.
>>
>> I have also tried to make the difference between produce and product clearer
>> .. though the division will all ways be a little fuzzy.
>>
>>
>> -------------------------
>>
>> On 'my' 'grass' which is where I started .. with the assistance of the GB
>> list, who should have some expertise with UK English, I have decided on
>> 'turf' as the best value .. and to use it under the key 'produce' with
>> landuse=farmland. This leaves the abused 'landuse=grass' alone .. I hope it
>> gets deleted and the appropriate features get move over to landcover=grass.
>>
>>
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