[Tagging] Added tables for values to key produce

Marc Gemis marc.gemis at gmail.com
Thu Jan 12 05:45:11 UTC 2017


I thought that someone told me it has to be something like

crop=tomato (for fields)
produce=milk (some human intervention)
product=handbag (a lot of human/machine handling)

but I'll admit that there are a lot of grey/gray areas (what is a lot
?). But that's life, nothing is just black and white.

m.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:17 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12-Jan-17 03:22 PM, Marc Gemis wrote:
>
> I thought crop was for farmland, produce for factories in case of
> "natural" products such as dairy related goods. and product for
> factories in case of more man made products such as hifi, cars, etc.
>
> m
>
>
> Note the 'ce' on the end of 'produce' compared to the 't' on the end of
> 'product' ... sorry about how close they are.
>
> Dictionary definition of produce;
>
> Agricultural and other natural products collectively
>
> -------------------
> As such it includes 'crop' type things.
>
> Crops are not animals .. like beef, fish. But fish and beef are both
> produce, hence produce is a wider definition, includes more things.
>
> The difference between produce and product .. is difficult!
>
> A product I take to be something that has been modified from its natural
> state ..
> Crocodile, defiantly a produce, changed to a handbag is, as a handbag,
> defiantly a product.
> Shelled peanuts have had some work on them .. is that amount of work enough
> to change them from a produce to a product? Flip a coin.
> If the shelled peanuts are sugar coated then they are, to me, a product.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Following on from landuse=grass .. I have been looking at appropriate tags
> for those areas used to actually produce grass ... or sod .. or turf as 2
> other words.
>
>
> From the wiki I first got crop .. which suits. Further searching got produce
> which also suits. I then looked at the usage - crop wins, and then the
> values ...product looks much more diverse .. thinking abut it .. produce
> encompass crops. I think the reason why crops is winning over mappers is the
> wiki page documentation ..
>
>
> So I have added 3 tables to the wiki produce page; aquaculture, farm and
> forestry.
>
> Some of these are present values from both produce and crop usage.
>
> I have tried to organise the farm entries into major groups - flowers and
> beans all together for example. There may be others that can be usefully
> combined too.
>
> See what you think ... these are all additions.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:produce
>
>
> Changes to the produce page ...
> Shop I have added the comment that these sell things .. they don't produce.
> They may sell farm produce .. but they still don't produce it themselves.
>
> I have also tried to make the difference between produce and product clearer
> .. though the division will all ways be a little fuzzy.
>
>
> -------------------------
>
> On 'my' 'grass' which is where I started .. with the assistance of the GB
> list, who should have some expertise with UK English, I have decided on
> 'turf' as the best value .. and to use it under the key 'produce' with
> landuse=farmland. This leaves the abused 'landuse=grass' alone .. I hope it
> gets deleted and the appropriate features get move over to landcover=grass.
>
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