[Tagging] tourist sightseeing bus routes [WAS: minibus routes]

althio althio.forum at gmail.com
Mon Jun 26 08:23:15 UTC 2017

On 26 June 2017 at 06:39, John Willis <johnw at mac.com> wrote:
> Here in my little town, they have the normal "bus" routes for people living in the town, going from rural bus stops down and around the train stations and schools.
> Then the city tourism board operates these slow, open-air, electric "busses" that are similar to a large golf cart for 12 or so people. It goes from tourism spot to tourism spot to the main train station. It looks like a "people mover" from Disneyland.
> Perhaps a tag for the slow-moving routes serviced by these kind of devices is worth separating from a "bus in some way - but the line between microbus and bus is pretty small.
> A town nearby stopped all regular bus service and now uses two microbuses (high-ace vans) to do on-demand passenger service - but I would still call these busses and "bus routes".
> I think there should be some way to say "this is not a normal bus. It is a slow thing for sightseeing tourists - not what you are expecting compared to all the other "busses" (size, level or capacity differences aside) - it my not be in the route option, but by some bus=* subtag someone could suggest.
> Javbw.

On 26. Jun 2017, at 07:18, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
> For the slow moving ... would a maxspeed=* on the relation be usefull?

On 26 June 2017 at 09:53, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
> no, maxspeed is a legal restriction. Also, you wouldn't find an actual number to put there, that is verifiable. You could use something like slow_speed=yes to indicate it is slower than other kind of buses.
> Maybe a different kind of route type or subtype wouldn't be bad for such tourist sightseeing hop on hop off bus routes, because they have nothing to do with "public transport " in the sense that locals won't use them ever for simply moving from A to B (at least around here: too slow, too expensive, not part of the official public transport network).
> cheers,
> Martin

Hi all,

I feel this is indeed different enough that we don't overload as
subtype bus route:
type = route
+ route = bus
+ bus = *
is not very satisfying in my opinion.

I would rather have a different type bus route, something similar to:
type = route
+ route = tour_bus / sightseeing_bus
+ tour_bus = double_decker / land_train /
+ fee = *
+ key_for_hop_on_hop_off = *
+ capacity?
+ network, operator

see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trackless_train
UK: land train, road train, Tschu-Tschu train and Dotto train
US: trackless train, tram and parking lot tram

-- althio

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