[Tagging] EuroVelo tagging

Jo winfixit at gmail.com
Sun Mar 5 22:58:49 UTC 2017


It ought to be possible to use hierarchy in those relations. That way you
would map them at the national level and group them for the international
level.

Same for that route that is mtb/hiking/horse. 1 route containing the ways,
then reuse for the other 2. At the moment I would tag that one with 3
separate reltations, but JOSM might complain you have relations with the
same members.

Polyglot

2017-03-05 22:15 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com>:

> I have a route that is
> mountain bike and
> hiking and
> horse
>
>
> the route=mtb;hiking;horse functions .. at least for hiking and horse
> ..(but not mtb on https://mtb.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=6!-35.8356!149.48
> - change it to horse or hiking to see mapped sections of the BNT)
>
> the network tag .. I have no idea on how to do multiple tags on this.
>
> I am thinking of separating this into 3 relations .. but it is very messy.
>
> My thoughts on the EV ... following my thinking on the above are;
>
> Have 2 relations ... on on the EV, the other on the other entity (e.g.
> BicItalia).
> Bit messy. But each can use the relevant tags without conflict. Those who
> want the national details rather than the international ones can have it.
>
>
> On 06-Mar-17 05:55 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote:
>
> As EV routes are not managed as single entities, every route is split in
> pieces managed on a country basis. I know the situation in Italy, as I am
> involved in regional and national cycle routes here. EV routes are handled
> by BicItalia which is part of FIAB, the "Italian Federation of Friends of
> the Bicycle". All EV routes all have also BicItalia numbering (BicItalia
> routes are ncn), but it is not necessarily the case that the Italian part
> of a given EV corresponds one-to-one to a BicItalia route. So it makes
> sense to tag the individual EV routes in one country as one icn and to tie
> these icn routes in the different countries together by a super relation.
> This means that any BI route that is also part of an EV is part of at least
> to bicycle route relations (it typically is also part of lower level routes.
>
> On 5 March 2017 at 19:38, Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemed.net> wrote:
>
>> Europe has numerous international cycle routes signposted and marketed as
>> 'EuroVelo', and these are often mapped in OSM:
>>
>>         http://www.eurovelo.com/
>>
>> Unfortunately the tagging is pretty inconsistent, especially when routes
>> are shared with national/regional (NCN/RCN) routes, as is usually the case.
>> Although a relation with 'network=icn' is the convention for international
>> cycling routes, people do sometimes change this to 'network=ncn' and
>> 'ref=EV<...>' for tagging-for-the-renderer reasons. The result is that we
>> have messy and inconsistent tagging.
>>
>> At present the wiki project page doesn't have any tagging guidance:
>>
>>         https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Europe/EuroVelo
>>
>> I would like to suggest that we formalise existing good practice by
>> saying that roads/paths on a EuroVelo route should directly be part of a
>> route relation. That relation should be tagged:
>>
>>         route=bicycle
>>         network=icn
>>         ref=11 [or whatever the EuroVelo route number is]
>>
>> Grouping several route relations together in a 'master relation' is all
>> good (as these routes are often too long for one manageable relation), as
>> is operator/brand tagging to indicate that this is EuroVelo in particular.
>> But I'd like to document the above as the minimum, simplest thing. It seems
>> to be generally accepted and is in line with NCN/RCN tagging.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> cheers
>> Richard
>>
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