[Tagging] rail routes and stations (rail question 1)

[Bjoern Hassler]

Hi Tijmen, hi Martin,

many thanks!

Bjoern

On 11 May 2017 at 22:34, Tijmen Stam <mailinglists at iivq.net> wrote:

> On 10-05-17 18:58, Bjoern Hassler wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've got the following question for clarification. Suppose you have a
>> relation: osm:relation:route
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/relation:route> (type=route,
>> route=train/...), with nodes as stops.
>>
>> (1) The wiki says that the node in this relation ("as stop")
>> representing a stop would be tagged as osm:tag:railway=stop
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dstop> /
>> osm:tag:public_transport=stop_position
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstop_position
>> >.
>> So far so good.
>>
>> (2) The wiki also says that alternatively, the node ("as stop")  could
>> be a station (railway=station).
>>
>> I assume that option (2) would be mainly for very small stations or
>> stations that have not been mapped? For larger stations, the station and
>> the stop position would be separate, and one would include the stop node
>> (1) in the relation, while the station is separate?
>>
>> The background to the question is that on the London underground, many
>> stops (i.e. nodes in route relations wth role "stop") are tagged as
>> station, see http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/oXF. Sometimes there are two
>> station tags as well (marking the stop for either direction).
>>
>> Do you agree that (e.g. where station buildings etc have been mapped),
>> the stop position should be tagged as (1), while the node tagged
>> railway=station should be merged into the relation for the station or
>> stop area?
>>
>
> I agree with you (and Martin).
>
> In my view, a fully mapped (simple) station should have a railway=station
> node, and a public_transport=platform and public_transport=stop_postion per
> platform/track.
>
> Then a stop_area relation which contains all stop_positions and platforms,
> and the railway=station node.
>
> The routes themselves contain only one stop_position/platform pair.
>
> Tijmen
>
>
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