[Tagging] toilets:wheelchair or wheelchair_toilet (Both iD presets)

[Dave F]

On 15/05/2017 14:25, Bryan Housel wrote:
> I think I’d rather see people just use the existing wheelchair key, 
> which iD provides in the “Add Field” dropdown.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wheelchair

They are using that, but to compliment it they're also adding those 
other two tags, to give a fuller picture.

>
> The fields that we expose for restaurants and other buildings are 
> already really cluttered with other things.

The drop-down selection menus are shot in length & the more tags on 
objects makes the database more accurate & detailed so I'm unsure what 
you mean by cluttered.

>
> I don’t think I would be able to explain to new mappers that they are 
> supposed to use the `wheelchair` tag on anything, but the 
> `toilets:wheelchair` tag on a building that has the toilets in it, 
> unless they want to map the toilets individually within the building 
> as point nodes.  Too complicated.

Providing the desired tags as presents make editing the OSM database 
simpler not complicated. Dragging in multiple tags from taginfo for the 
'All Tags' drop down is more confusing. toilets:wheelchair is added to 
the node/polygon to indicate the establishment has accessible toilets, 
No one is expecting the mapping of individual cubicles.


>
> Bryan
>
>
>
>> On May 15, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Dave F <davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com 
>> <mailto:davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Ah, I was unaware of the 'Add fields' & 'All tags' differences. Does 
>> iD pull in all taginfo or is there a minimum number limit?
>>
>> As Wheelmap only displays a subset of all establishments people 
>> adding data are using iD. Would it big a big problem if 
>> 'toilets:wheelchair' & wheelchair:description were added to the defaults.
>>
>> DaveF.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14/05/2017 17:00, Clifford Snow wrote:
>>> It looks like iD is pulling in data from taginfo when manually 
>>> adding a tag. When searching for wheelchair, iD only offers a point 
>>> object, which is correct. We don't tag wheelchairs, we tag objects 
>>> that have wheelchair attributes.
>>>
>>> Clifford
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Dave F <davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com 
>>> <mailto:davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_y-XYuXYAEbFAH.jpg
>>>     <https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_y-XYuXYAEbFAH.jpg>
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>>>     DaveF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 14/05/2017 16:04, Bryan Housel wrote:
>>>>     I just searched the iD code and none of these tags are iD presets.
>>>>     Thanks, Bryan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>     On May 14, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Dave F<davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com>  <mailto:davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>     toilets:wheelchair 64875 (iD & wheelmap preset)
>>>>>     wheelchair_toilet 4550 (iD preset)
>>>>>
>>>>>     What does wheelchair_toilet represent that's different from toilets:wheelchair?
>>>>>     If there isn't one I think wheelchair_toilet should be removed from iD's presets
>>>>>
>>>>>     Other combinations which should potentially be changed:
>>>>>     wheelchair:toilets 467
>>>>>     wheelchair:toilet 10
>>>>>     toilet:wheelchair 6
>>>>>
>>>>>     DaveF
>>>>>
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