[Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project
voschix at gmail.com
Thu Apr 12 10:08:27 UTC 2018
NGO is not the correct term.
The Italian social cooperatives are, normally, small companies. That is
much different form NGO , I think. In particular they are for-profit
My earlier point was that if you put the operator's name in the "operator"
tag, this would, in Italy, normally include the term "cooperativa sociale"
as part of the name
On 12 April 2018 at 11:37, Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com> wrote:
> So I will add
> social_facility=outreach (and hope no-one thinks it is only accessible
> for people in an outreach group)
> for now. In case new/better ideas pop-up, feel free to let me know.
> p.s. @Volker: I totally understand your viewpoint. I was wondering
> myself whether it is sensible to do, but since their website states it
> as well, I see no harm to add the information.
> As I wrote in an earlier their might be projects that are more
> secretive (is that the correct word to use?) in which case we should
> not map it, but I guess if the people serving you have some disability
> you will notice soon enough.
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 11:09 AM, marc marc <marc_marc_irc at hotmail.com>
> > for the tag : operator:type=ngo
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type
> > for the "publicly available" : for the two establishments of this type I
> > know, being a "outreach project" is a part of the goal. we also go there
> > to help the project and not just for the poi itself, so it seems very
> > positive to me to add the information.
> > it's over the time when helping someone different was shameful.
> > Le 12. 04. 18 à 10:26, Marc Gemis a écrit :
> >> In both cases I encountered, the website clearly states it:
> >> (In Dutch)
> >> http://widar.be/widar/beleven/den-bayerd-het-casino/ clearly states
> >> "people with an handicap"
> >> https://www.mechelen.be/eetcafe-t-ass-2 It mentions people with a
> >> form of autism (it is worded more nicely in Dutch)
> >> there is nothing hidden in the two cases I wanted to map. But indeed,
> >> I can imagine that not all projects are so open about it.
> >> m
> >> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com>
> >>> This is a tricky issue. I expect not all of them to be happy to
> >>> that fact.
> >>> We have here in Italy many businesses or amenities that are run by
> >>> cooperatives  that employ people with special needs. From the
> >>> article it seems that similar forms are common in Belgium.
> >>> In Italy we could deal with this by putting the full name of the
> operator in
> >>> the "operator" tag. That full name would include the wording
> >>> sociale"
> >>>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_cooperative >> Marc Gemis
> marc.gemis at gmail.com
> > >> Thu Apr 12 05:23:32 UTC 2018
> > >>> How do you tag a cafe (or any other amenity) that is run as part
> > >>> of an outreach project ?
> > >>> The cafe is available to everyone, but the employees are part of an
> > >>> outreach project (e.g. people with disabilities).
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