[Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

[Marc Gemis]

For the case at hand, it's an n.v (naamloze venootschap). A limited
company. Says nothing at all about the area in which the company
operates.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com> wrote:
> NGO is not the correct term.
> The Italian social cooperatives are, normally, small companies. That is much
> different form NGO [1], I think. In particular they are for-profit
> businesses.
> My earlier point was that if you put the operator's name in the "operator"
> tag, this would, in Italy, normally include the term "cooperativa sociale"
> as part of the name
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-governmental_organization
>
> On 12 April 2018 at 11:37, Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So I will add
>>
>> social_facility=outreach (and hope no-one thinks it is only accessible
>> for people in an outreach group)
>> operator=Foobar
>> operator:type:ngo
>>
>> for now. In case new/better ideas pop-up, feel free to let me know.
>>
>> m.
>>
>> p.s. @Volker: I totally understand your viewpoint. I was wondering
>> myself whether it is sensible to do, but since their website states it
>> as well, I see no harm to add the information.
>> As I wrote in an earlier their might be projects that are more
>> secretive (is that the correct word to use?) in which case we should
>> not map it, but I guess if the people serving you have some disability
>> you will notice soon enough.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 11:09 AM, marc marc <marc_marc_irc at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > for the tag : operator:type=ngo
>> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type
>> >
>> > for the "publicly available" : for the two establishments of this type I
>> > know, being a "outreach project" is a part of the goal. we also go there
>> > to help the project and not just for the poi itself, so it seems very
>> > positive to me to add the information.
>> > it's over the time when helping someone different was shameful.
>> >
>> > Le 12. 04. 18 à 10:26, Marc Gemis a écrit :
>> >> In both cases I encountered, the website clearly states it:
>> >>
>> >> (In Dutch)
>> >> http://widar.be/widar/beleven/den-bayerd-het-casino/ clearly states
>> >> "people with an handicap"
>> >> https://www.mechelen.be/eetcafe-t-ass-2   It mentions people with a
>> >> form of autism (it is worded more nicely in Dutch)
>> >>
>> >> there is nothing hidden in the two cases I wanted to map. But indeed,
>> >> I can imagine that not all projects are so open about it.
>> >>
>> >> m
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> This is a tricky issue. I expect not all of them to be happy to
>> >>> publicise
>> >>> that fact.
>> >>> We have here in Italy many businesses or amenities that are run by
>> >>> social
>> >>> cooperatives [1] that employ people with special needs.  From the
>> >>> Wikipedia
>> >>> article it seems that similar forms are common in Belgium.
>> >>> In Italy we could deal with this by putting the full name of the
>> >>> operator in
>> >>> the "operator" tag. That full name would include the wording
>> >>> "cooperativa
>> >>> sociale"
>> >>>
>> >>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_cooperative >> Marc Gemis
>> >>> marc.gemis at gmail.com
>> >  >> Thu Apr 12 05:23:32 UTC 2018
>> >  >>> How do you tag a cafe (or any other amenity) that is run as part
>> >  >>> of an outreach project ?
>> >  >>> The cafe is available to everyone, but the employees are part of an
>> >  >>> outreach project (e.g. people with disabilities).
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