[Tagging] musical_instrument tag for publicly available musical instruments

José G Moya Y. josemoya at gmail.com
Sun Apr 29 10:36:20 UTC 2018


Yes, but how do you know you are tagging the right area? My gps has a error
of +-5 metres, more when indoors. And no one goes to a bar at 2 am and
starts asking drunk people to go away in order to measure its perimeter.

El dom., 29 de abril de 2018 12:02, <osm.tagging at thorsten.engler.id.au>
escribió:

> Obviously, you would have to use a separate node inside the area that is
> tagged as the bar to tag the piano…
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> If you want to go into this much detail about what’s inside the bar (or
> anything else for that matter), tagging the area and then putting things
> inside it is much more manageable then trying to tag everything on a single
> node.
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> In that regards it’s the same as tagging e.g. a café inside a bookshop.
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> *From:* José G Moya Y. <josemoya at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 29 April 2018 18:37
> *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <
> tagging at openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] musical_instrument tag for publicly available
> musical instruments
>
>
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> I think this is a good idea, but, in the suggestion of Thorsten, I find
> problematic the use of "access=" tag when instruments are in a bar. Imagine
> a bar with a private piano is tagged as a point:
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> amenity=bar
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> amenity=musical_instrument
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> musical_instrument=piano
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> access=private
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> It does not make clear if either access to bar or access to piano is
> private.
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> Also, since bars are amenities, a duplicate "amenity" tag arises. You have
> to either put two points or tag the bar as an area.
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> Yours,
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> José
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> El dom., 29 de abril de 2018 7:51, <osm.tagging at thorsten.engler.id.au>
> escribió:
>
> The musical_instrument *key* is generally used to name the specific type
> of musical instrument:
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/musical_instrument
>
> You are correct that it's mostly used in combination with
> shop=musical_instrument (a place selling them) or craft=musical_instrument
> (a place making them).
>
> But there are also a (very) few cases tagged as amenity=musical_instrument
> (a place where a musical instrument is available for use) and
> playground=musical_instrument (similar, but generally a more robust "toy"
> instrument aimed at a younger audience). Neither one of which is currently
> specifically documented on the wiki, but that shouldn't stop you from using
> them.
>
> So a piano in a bar that is available for people to play on should
> probably be tagged:
>
> amenity=musical_instrument
> musical_instrument=piano
> access=permissive (or access=customer in some cases)
>
> Either way, the piano is privately owned and the owner is currently making
> it available to other people, but may revoke that permission at will in the
> future.
>
> Cheers,
> Thorsten
>
> P.S. is there a preference on this mailing list for top or bottom posting?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: e1k <emileaben at protonmail.ch>
> > Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2018 15:12
> > To: tagging at openstreetmap.org
> > Subject: [Tagging] musical_instrument tag for publicly available
> > musical instruments
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > (first post, plz be gentle!)
> > i'd love to see if there can be consensus on the use of the
> > 'musical_instrument' tag for publicly available musical instruments.
> > a growing number of bars, train stations and or other public places
> > have musical instruments around where i live (Amsterdam area), and
> > i've started noticing and collecting these places, and would love
> > to tag them in openstreetmap.
> > use case: as a musician that travels around a bit, i'd love to know
> > where i can find a piano or guitar to play on.
> > i see the musical_instrument tag is mostly (only?) used for place
> > that create and/or sell musical instruments, but i'm wondering what
> > the appropriate form of tag would be for a publicly available
> > musical instrument.
> > (if this has been discussed before, plz point me at it, i coudln't
> > find it)
> >
> > best regards,
> > emile
> >
> >
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> > inevitable -- Albie Sachs​
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