[Tagging] consensus needed: officially a town but visibly distinct settlements?

José G Moya Y. josemoya at gmail.com
Sat Aug 18 18:49:12 UTC 2018


Well, from the mapping point of view, these political differences between a
Spanish small village and a Spanish big hamlet matter:

1) Villages have their own major, so they have a town hall.
2) Villages have their own local rules on max speed, buildings, street
markets and banking holidays. So a van driver looking to sell his/her
watermellon cargo could need to know this fact.

El sáb., 18 ago. 2018 20:31, djakk djakk <djakk.djakk at gmail.com> escribió:

> I agree with Michael, openstreetmap should reflect what the mapers see,
> not what the politics and the administration see. Though it is also
> interesting to map administrative things like borders.
>
> djakk
>
>
> Le sam. 18 août 2018 à 17:33, Yves <yvecai at mailbox.org> a écrit :
>
>> Michael, you don't seem to take the right direction to construct a
>> fruitful discussion with Jose :)
>> For your first issue, did you reach the Lithuanian and Russian community?
>>
>> Yves
>>
>> Le 18 août 2018 16:37:28 GMT+02:00, Michael Tsang <miklcct at gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>>>
>>> On Saturday 18 August 2018 22:10:15 HKT José G Moya Y. wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Plwase take into notice that, in some countries, the difference between
>>>>  suburb, hamlet, town or village is not only based on population but in
>>>>  political issues, such as self-government, also.
>>>>
>>>>  When I see my hometown is defined as "aldea" (hamlet) in wikidata I always
>>>>  got angry, because, being statistically a hamlet (~200 people), it *is*
>>>>  politically a *village* (it elects its own town major and has its own self
>>>>  government and budget).
>>>>
>>>>  There are many such villages in Spain, (specially in the "Spanish Finland",
>>>>  the demographic desert between Soria and Teruel) and that is a point of
>>>>  conflict with many EU directives that request villages provide services a
>>>>  such small villages can't afford.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But does it look like a village from an untrained eye? i.e. what services does
>>> it provide? If it really provides services that a village provide than it is
>>> really a village.
>>>
>>> If I am doing the mapping, if the settlement is small (less than 200 people)
>>> AND does not provide services where a village should provide, I will mark it
>>> as a hamlet despite every official designation.
>>>
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