[Tagging] Can OSM become a geospacial database?

Eugene Podshivalov yaugenka at gmail.com
Wed Dec 5 18:36:10 UTC 2018


Martin,

> this is already the case. At least it should be like this, if you see
> places where the name tag is abused for descriptions you should fix it. I
> admit, it is not always possible to clearly tell which is the correct name,
> for some kind of things, not even in the real world.
> At least in OSM you can add alternative names, generically or with
> specific meaning (loc_name, short_name, etc.)

The name tag is abused very often and systematically. Let's take at look at
this spot in the centre of Paris
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/48.86138/2.36028
You can see category names displayed everywhere there, e.g. musium, hotel,
school (in French).
As a result when you query OSM database for some category items you have to
apply algorithms for clearing category names from the name field to get
just proper names.

Regards,
Eugene


ср, 5 дек. 2018 г. в 20:25, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>:

>
>
> Am Mi., 5. Dez. 2018 um 16:50 Uhr schrieb Eugene Podshivalov <
> yaugenka at gmail.com>:
>
>> I invision the following solution here.
>>
>> * First of all, the "name" tag should containt proper name only.
>>
>
>
> this is already the case. At least it should be like this, if you see
> places where the name tag is abused for descriptions you should fix it. I
> admit, it is not always possible to clearly tell which is the correct name,
> for some kind of things, not even in the real world.
> At least in OSM you can add alternative names, generically or with
> specific meaning (loc_name, short_name, etc.)
>
>
>
>> * Secondly, introduce a new tag for the real life language specific
>> category name. I know that "name:prefix/postfix" key was originally
>> introduced for another purpose but it can be a candidate here as well. Note
>> that in some languages the place of category name relative to the proper
>> name matters.
>>
>
>
> I agree this could make sense, I am doing it for places where you can eat
> with this tag and local values:
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/restaurant%3Atype%3Ait#values
>
> I would not expect it useful for any kind of things, but there are fields
> with cultural specialties where I agree that it would be hard to agree on
> detailed categories on a global level, and still it might not make sense
> outside of a specific cultural context anyway.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
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