[Tagging] Can OSM become a geospacial database?

Eugene Podshivalov yaugenka at gmail.com
Thu Dec 6 12:25:45 UTC 2018


Sergio,
>
> how would you make up the name for one of yours пруд or копанка in English
> ?

Let me please answer your question with a question
How to you translate your French highway=residential's into in English like
"Cité Pasteur", "Rue André Bru", "Voie des Roses" etc?

чт, 6 дек. 2018 г. в 15:17, Eugene Podshivalov <yaugenka at gmail.com>:

> I am pursonally not in favour of the solution with category names in the
> "name" but have mentioned it because it is currently used in every country
> for highway=residential ways.
>
> чт, 6 дек. 2018 г. в 15:08, Sergio Manzi <smz at smz.it>:
>
>> That's (*quite obviously I would say...*) not a solution: all it does is
>> to move the problem from one place to another: how would you make up the
>> name for one of yours пруд or копанка in English?
>>
>> On 2018-12-06 12:51, Eugene Podshivalov wrote:
>>
>> Another solution is to always put category name into "name" field.
>> "Paris" would become "City of Paris" or "Paris city".
>> And the renderers will need to decide how to cut the category word from
>> some names in order not to display then on the map or another ready-to-use
>> tag will need to be inroduce which would contain just "Paris" in it.
>>
>> чт, 6 дек. 2018 г. в 13:52, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch>:
>>
>>> Just to inject a bit of OT here
>>>
>>> - the EN name of the Vierwaldstättersee is Lake Lucerne
>>>
>>> - the literal translation is "lake of the four forest settlements" (only
>>> loosely related to the notion of cantons)
>>>
>>> In both cases naming the lake  "Lucerne" or "Vierwaldstätten" would
>>> obviously be nonsense.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> Am 05.12.2018 um 19:55 schrieb marc marc:
>>> > Le 05. 12. 18 à 19:36, Eugene Podshivalov a écrit :
>>> >> The name tag is abused very often and systematically.
>>> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/48.86138/2.36028
>>> > just because a hotel's name contains the word hotel does not
>>> necessarily
>>> > mean it is a false name. Some names are "hotêl abc" and not "abc"
>>> >
>>> > the same for the lakes.
>>> > the lake near Geneva (France/Switzerland) is indeed called "Léman"
>>> > and it is a tautology (an error) to say Lake Léman.
>>> > But the "lake of the 4 cantons" in Switzerland is called the "lake of
>>> > the 4 cantons". If you ask someone where "of the 4 cantons" are
>>> located,
>>> > he don't understand what you're talking about because that not its
>>> name.
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