[Tagging] Trailhead tagging

Peter Elderson pelderson at gmail.com
Fri Dec 21 18:12:17 UTC 2018

Maybe I misinterpreted information I got from another source. I've checked
and found info like this:
https://www.nps.gov/search/?affiliate=nps&query=trailhead . I found several
sites listing named trailheads for specific parks with # parking spaces and
other details.

The route starting points in Nederland are multimodal, named, have to
fulfill some requirements,  and are recognizable in the field as such by
some kind of landmark feature such as an oversize green grass halm, cone of
stones, oversize key. They were occasionally mapped as tourism=artwork. We
would not consider any waymarked path leading into a nature area to be a
trailhead. A verifyable name would be required, at least.

Op vr 21 dec. 2018 om 16:25 schreef Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com>:

> On 21/12/2018 11:54, Peter Elderson wrote:
> >> I would like to revive the trailhead proposal,
> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/trailhead
> >>
> >> After discussions in the Dutch user community, a list of all Dutch
> >> trailheads was compiled and systematically entered as nodes tagged
> >> highway=trailhead, name=<official trailhead name>,
> >> tourism=information, information=board or map. Many trailheads were
> >> already present in OSM, there we just did some additional tagging.
> >>
> >> In the US, trailheads are all maintained on OSM by a national
> >> operator. Japan has lots of trailheads, I don't know how they are
> >> maintained. In Europe, no systematical OSM-tagging appears to take
> >> place, except for the Dutch base.
> On 12/21/18 8:29 AM, Andy Townsend wrote:
> >
> > Can you give a few examples of what trailheads are to you? There's a
> > clearly defined American concept, it isn't not really used much in
> > British English.  Also what do you mean by "official" below - is there
> > some kind of VVV list or similar?
> >
> I'm following this thread with some interest. I'm puzzled about the
> 'national operator' that we supposedly have, entering trailheads in the
> US. The ones I've mapped surely have had no such operator! It may be
> that someone once did an import from a National Park Service data set
> (or something similar), but that would account for only a small set of
> our trails. We don't have anything like an all-encompassing national
> organization doing them.
> I've never used anything like the proposed feature, and I don't miss it
> all that much. Most trailheads that I encounter have a notice board, a
> register book in some areas, perhaps a parking area, and that's about
> it. I map the trail intersecting or terminating at the road, map the
> parking area, map the register, map whatever other amenities might exist
> (such as https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3763273673) and call it a day.
> But perhaps there's some other idea of what a trailhead is. To me, it's
> the "point of departure" or "point of arrival" when hiking, riding, or
> skiing a trail - generally any place where a trail intersects a road and
> it's reasonably safe to get on or get off. (I intentionally exclude
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/41.28251/-74.02879 because
> crossing a motorway at grade is NOT a trailhead! It's also barking mad
> to do it that way, but this *is* the US.) If it's the trail terminus,
> it'll typically be marked with three splashes of paint on a tree, or
> three plastic markers, rather than just one. A posh one looks like this
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ke9tv/14279037264 and a more humble one
> looks like https://www.flickr.com/photos/ke9tv/14041171575.
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