[Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

LeTopographeFou letopographefou at gmail.com
Sun Dec 23 16:15:20 UTC 2018

Thank you for asking.

I go a lot to either motels or hotels and I also think that the 
difference between a motel and an hotel is mainly based on the design of 
the place, not on the number of nights, the proximity to tourist 
attractions or major highways or the cost of the land. Consequently I 
disagree with most of your criteria in the "How to tell apart from 
hotel" section and would reduce the list to objective criteria based on 
the design of the place, i.e an high interaction between the parking lot 
and the rooms (which often means that room access is made from the 
parking lot). Everything else may be your criteria but are not objective 
criteria IMHO.

Speaking of the difference with a guest house the main difference would 
be: Is the owner a company (i.e. an incorporated business) with 
employees (for check in, check out...) or is it a self-managed business? 
I think the question applies also to hotels.

Also, I suggest you to sum up eveything in one Wiki page listing all 
scenarios of sleeping places (camping, glamping, hotel, motel and guest 
house), keeping the actual one as how to use the tags (not how to choose 
the best one) instead of keeping 5 pages which will never (?) be aligned.



Le 23/12/2018 à 12:05, bkil a écrit :
> Thank you for the insight, I'll try to figure out a better wording 
> there. I'm also considering to improve the wording of the guest house 
> and hotel articles in the future, though I'll need to find a way to do 
> this without adding too much redundancy.
> Well, what I wanted to convey in those sentences was that I'd expect 
> the average booked nights per stay to be lower for a motel compared to 
> a hotel.
> Compared to renting a flat, both motel and hotel stays are considered 
> short-term. However, if we used the exact same wording of simply 
> "short term" on both wiki articles, we would be missing the 
> opportunity for an important distinction: while one happily books a 
> whole week in a hotel for the sake of enjoying the leisure, services 
> and attractions nearby, motels by design have been more intended for 
> transit traffic.
> Of course I'm not talking about a hard split, as in all or nothing. 
> Surely a number of people on the budget will stay at a motel and 
> commute from there daily to their real destinations simply because of 
> the cost savings, but I'd say that the core business model of most 
> motels relies (or have historically relied) on transient use.
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:17 AM Joseph Eisenberg 
> <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     The one concern I have is the new sentences that suggest that
>     hotels are “typically not [booked for ] single night” while motels
>     are usually booked for 1 night.
>     I have certainly stayed for 2 to 3 nights at a “Motel 6” and other
>     motels.
>     And I have never encountered problems booking rooms for a single
>     night at 3 and 3.5 star hotels for business trips.
>     On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 6:34 PM bkil <bkil.hu
>     <http://bkil.hu>+Aq at gmail.com <mailto:Aq at gmail.com>> wrote:
>         I've made a major rewording of this tag. Please review and
>         don't hesitate to comment or improve if I've mistakenly
>         changed the meaning of the tag:
>         https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Atourism%3Dmotel&type=revision&diff=1755686&oldid=1561324
>         Source: based on Wikipedia and recent mapping experience:
>         https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/65702446#map=9/47.1412/18.6632
>         It also looks like some have used the word motel for what
>         should have been pensions and guest houses around here, I'll
>         also fix these later.
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