[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Top up

Daniele Santini danysan95 at gmail.com
Wed Dec 26 14:57:10 UTC 2018


(I am resending this mail because the first time I forgot to change the
object from "Digest". Sorry for the double mail!)
So what's your suggestion?
top_up:<type>=<brand>? <type>_top_up:<brand>=yes/no?
<type>_top_up:brand=<brand>?

Il giorno mer 26 dic 2018 alle ore 15:09 <tagging-request at openstreetmap.org>
ha scritto:

> Hi,
>
> Am Mi., 26. Dez. 2018 um 10:13 Uhr schrieb Markus <
> selfishseahorse at gmail.com>:
> > I don't see a problem that would prevent using the proposed tags
> > top_up:<type>[:<brand>]=yes/no for vending machines, ATMs, convenience
>
> Tag-proposals in the form
> <tag_attr_name>:<type_value->[:<subtype_value>]=yes/no should be
> avoided. It's shifting values to attribute names!
>
> This detracts processing - given we/OSM already have a non-relational
> key-value schema. Specifically it makes processing with presets and
> any key-value analysis very hard.
>
> And by saying hard I don't mean it's because some programmers may be
> lazy. It's because having a value as part of an attribute-name is
> really a wrong data structure.
>
> In fact, "<tag_attr_name>:<type_value->[:<subtype_value>] = boolean"
> has to be officially considered harmful!
>
> There are so many tagging alternatives - like the usual tag scheme.
>
> :Stefan
>
> [1]
> https://2018.stateofthemap.org/2018/T061-An_excursion_in_to_the_world_of_OSM_tagging_presets/
>
>
> Am Mi., 26. Dez. 2018 um 10:13 Uhr schrieb Markus <
> selfishseahorse at gmail.com>:
> >
> > I don't see a problem that would prevent using the proposed tags
> > top_up:<type>[:<brand>]=yes/no for vending machines, ATMs, convenience
> > stores, kiosks etc. too.
> > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 at 09:59, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > There are some vending machines that offer 'top up' ... how are these
> to be tagged? Together with a payment tag too.
> > >
> > > There are some convenience stores that offer 'top up' services .. how
> are these to be tagged?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 26/12/18 19:31, Markus wrote:
> > > > Hi Daniele,
> > > >
> > > >  From the proposal page:
> > > >
> > > >> It's possible to specify which brand/carrier vouchers are sold with
> the key brand=*.
> > > >>
> > > >> A bar that sells Vodafone phone vouchers: amenity=bar + top_up=yes
> + brand=vodafone
> > > > The brand=* key specifies the brand of the main tag, here
> amenity=bar.
> > > > In your example, this would mean that it's a Vodafone bar.
> > > >
> > > > Furthermore, top_up=yes doesn't say whether you can top up mobile
> > > > phones, public transport cards or something else, for example prepaid
> > > > credit cards.
> > > >
> > > > Therefore i would suggest someting like:
> > > >
> > > > top_up:mobile_phone=yes/no
> > > > top_up:mobile_phone:vodafone=yes/no
> > > > top_up:mobile_phone:lycamobile=yes/no
> > > >
> > > > top_up:public_transport=yes/no
> > > > top_up:public_transport:oyster=yes/no
> > > > top_up:public_transport:opal=yes/no
> > > >
> > > > top_up:credit_card=yes/no
> > > > top_up:credit_card:ok=yes/no
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Markus
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 at 02:45, Daniele Santini <danysan95 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> Link of the proposal:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Top_up
> > > >> Hi, I propose to introduce the top_up=* key to specify whether a
> shop/amenity sells top-ups (mobile phone credit recharge vouchers,
> over-the-air credit top up and/or public transport credit recharge
> vouchers).
> > > >> Kind regards
> > > >> --
> > > >> Daniele Santini
> > > >> http://www.dsantini.it
>

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Daniele Santini
http://www.dsantini.it
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