[Tagging] Street cabinets and kiosk substations

François Lacombe fl.infosreseaux at gmail.com
Tue Jan 2 23:13:31 UTC 2018


Hi,

Regarding this location=kiosk topic, a discussion was opened on talk page
of power=substation key.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Kiosk_substations_in_street_cabinets

Since no big issue has been raised, I've updated mentionned wiki pages
(with French version when available) with man_made=street_cabinet.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dtransformer#Location_values
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:location
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:substation%3Dminor_distribution
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Location
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet

location=kiosk is not a recommended value anymore and it's encouraged to
replace it manually and carefully with man_made=street_cabinet +
street_cabinet=power

location key can now be used everytime to give the right
substation/transformer's location, in cabinet or not.
We can have underground or indoor cabinets like this :
man_made=street_cabinet
street_cabinet=power
power=substation
substation=minor_distribution
location=underground or indoor or ...

All the best

François

2017-11-04 11:45 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe <fl.infosreseaux at gmail.com>:

> Hi
>
> The man_made=street_cabinet key sounds suitable to map items described
> with power=substation + location=kiosk.
> They are actual small cabinets like those where no technician can enter to
> work (opposite of building) : https://wiki.openstreetmap.
> org/wiki/File:10kV_trafo_kiosk.jpg
>
> Street cabinet is the container while substation is the function.
>
> Wiki example on this page gives follwing tags:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Examples
> power=substation
> substation=minor_distribution
> location=kiosk
>
> I propose to update it as such :
> man_made=street_cabinet
> street_cabinet=power
> power=substation
> substation=minor_distribution
> location=pavement (or wherever the cabinet is located)
>
> It works both for nodes or areas.
> Additionnal advantage is to get location=* back to give cabinet position
> instead of substation design (there was issues to tag underground kiosks
> for instance)
> There are 7k objects in db:
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/location=kiosk
>
> Pages to update are :
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%
> 3Dtransformer#Location_values
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:location
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:substation%3Dminor_distribution
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Location
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet
>
> How do you feel about it ?
>
> There are no need of a time consuming formal proposal to deal with this
> question.
> Without further coments, i will update wiki pages in 15 days.
> No automated edits.
>
> Thanks for your time
>
> François
>
>
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