[Tagging] Short-term parking zones

[Matej Lieskovský]

Greetings,

If those zones are not entire areas then I agree - don't use areas. If it
is on a street-by-street basis we have no choice but to track individual
streets.
How about an empty relation? (
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Empty_relations) This would group the
tags in one place, leaving just a few tags per street.

Happy mapping!

Matej

On 14 January 2018 at 11:51, Stefan Nagy <stefan.nagy at posteo.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Am 14.01.2018 11:02 schrieb pbnoxious:
>
>> On 2018-01-13 22:06, Matej Lieskovský wrote:
>>
>>> I have a similar problem with the tagging of "Zone 30" and other such
>>> restrictions.
>>>
>>> I understand that having the tag on every road makes it easier for
>>> consumers. I think that when a restriction is conceptually an area, it
>>> should be marked as an area because we should be making use of
>>> the fact that we have a geospatial database.
>>> A relationship feels a little like having the disadvantages of both
>>> approaches - you need to keep track of all road segments, but it is
>>> worse for consumers.
>>>
>>
>> I'd like to disagree on the "Zone 30" being an actual area: Here the
>> appropriate administration does usually not set a full area (with all
>> houses, parks etc.) as restricted but rather the individual connected
>> streets, which means that in my mind a relation would be the approach
>> that resembles the nature of these restrictions the most. But as you
>> already noticed: the relation does not really make things easier, so I
>> would rather stick to tagging the individual roads.
>>
>
> The problem with short-term parking zones is that the conditions are
> much more complicated than in 30 km/h zones… For example from x pm
> to y am parking is free for everyone. From y am to x pm it's only free for
> residents (they get a special sticker for their car), everyone else has to
> pay a fee of z euros and they are only allowed to park for max. 2 hours.
>
> Now tag nearly every street in a district with this information – and when
> you're done the city decides to change the rules for it's short-term
> parking zones…
>
> That's why I'd like to use implicit values or relations. I don't want to
> use
> areas because, as you say, "the appropriate administration does usually
> not set a full area (with all houses, parks etc.) as restricted but rather
> the
> individual connected streets" – and the rules don't apply to all streets in
> these areas.
>
> Cheers,
> Stefan.
>
>
> --
> E-Mails signieren & verschlüsseln · https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/de/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tagging mailing list
> Tagging at openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/attachments/20180114/5c4c3f2d/attachment.html>