[Tagging] Spanish "manors"

César Martínez Izquierdo cesar.izq at gmail.com
Wed Jul 4 10:34:02 UTC 2018


Hi,

I wonder the best way to tag Spanish historic farmhouses ("masías"
[1], "caseríos" [2] "cortijos", "pazos", etc), since I find no proper
value of "historic" for them.

They are prominent buildings that are spread all over the country,
dating from at least the XVII century and in some cases having Roman
origins. Some of them are still used as farmhouses, but most of them
are abandoned or have a different use nowadays: museums, hotels,
private houses, etc. They had great importance in the past since they
were used to administer the fields surrounding them. Nowadays the are
relevant from the point of view of architecture and they are also
important landmarks in the rural areas. They are named (e.g. "Masía
Tristán") and its name has been extended to identify the area
surrounding them.

I think that the best way is to tag their current use (e.g.
building=hotel, or building=civic+tourism=museum, etc) and then use
the "historic" tag to note they are a historic farmhouse.

I see different options for the proper historic value.

1- historic=manor
2- historic=farmhouse
3- historic=masia, historic=cortijo, etc

I wonder if option 1 (manor) is too specific to UK or it can be
applied also to these kind of building.

OSM wiki states: "The manor tag is intended only for representative
buildings that are in the same time the administrative center of a
large agricultural estate. Buildings lacking this economic feature
should not be tagged.".

Regarding option 2, this would be a new value for historic, and I am
not sure it will really catch the historic relevance of the building.
We don't tag it as historic because it was a farmhouse, but because of
its architecture and historic relevance in administering the lands
surrounding it.

The 3rd option (using different values for each kind building) looks a
bit overkilling, since there are many different names (masía,
alquería, cortijo, caserío, pazo, cigarral, quinta, carmen, etc, etc)
and this would create too much tag fragmentation.

Finally, there is also historic=farm, but it does not fit in this case
according its definition.

Opinions?

César Martínez

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masia
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baserri
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortijo
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazo



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