[Tagging] Spanish "manors"

José G Moya Y. josemoya at gmail.com
Wed Jul 4 11:04:37 UTC 2018


Search in this list for "[Tagging] Manor tagging" around march 14th.
The manor is the area around the house (la finca)
The manor house it the house itself.
Yours,
José Moya

El 4/7/2018 12:36 PM, "César Martínez Izquierdo" <cesar.izq at gmail.com>
escribió:

> Hi,
>
> I wonder the best way to tag Spanish historic farmhouses ("masías"
> [1], "caseríos" [2] "cortijos", "pazos", etc), since I find no proper
> value of "historic" for them.
>
> They are prominent buildings that are spread all over the country,
> dating from at least the XVII century and in some cases having Roman
> origins. Some of them are still used as farmhouses, but most of them
> are abandoned or have a different use nowadays: museums, hotels,
> private houses, etc. They had great importance in the past since they
> were used to administer the fields surrounding them. Nowadays the are
> relevant from the point of view of architecture and they are also
> important landmarks in the rural areas. They are named (e.g. "Masía
> Tristán") and its name has been extended to identify the area
> surrounding them.
>
> I think that the best way is to tag their current use (e.g.
> building=hotel, or building=civic+tourism=museum, etc) and then use
> the "historic" tag to note they are a historic farmhouse.
>
> I see different options for the proper historic value.
>
> 1- historic=manor
> 2- historic=farmhouse
> 3- historic=masia, historic=cortijo, etc
>
> I wonder if option 1 (manor) is too specific to UK or it can be
> applied also to these kind of building.
>
> OSM wiki states: "The manor tag is intended only for representative
> buildings that are in the same time the administrative center of a
> large agricultural estate. Buildings lacking this economic feature
> should not be tagged.".
>
> Regarding option 2, this would be a new value for historic, and I am
> not sure it will really catch the historic relevance of the building.
> We don't tag it as historic because it was a farmhouse, but because of
> its architecture and historic relevance in administering the lands
> surrounding it.
>
> The 3rd option (using different values for each kind building) looks a
> bit overkilling, since there are many different names (masía,
> alquería, cortijo, caserío, pazo, cigarral, quinta, carmen, etc, etc)
> and this would create too much tag fragmentation.
>
> Finally, there is also historic=farm, but it does not fit in this case
> according its definition.
>
> Opinions?
>
> César Martínez
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masia
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baserri
> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortijo
> [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazo
>
>
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