[Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

Peter Elderson pelderson at gmail.com
Tue Jun 5 09:20:57 UTC 2018


I imagine that
- people  that use landuse=grass, landuse=forest/wood, natural=scrub since
it renders, would be willing to use landuse=[something appropriate],
landcover=grass|trees|scrub|... if it would render

-  people that use landcover=... (and don't care about empty spots on the
map), would not mind if it rendered and might be persuaded to add a
collective landuse=[something appropriate] if it adds a nice green default
rendering

- people that  use landuse=village_green since it renders, would not object
to using a correct landuse instead, if it has about the same nice green
default rendering.

- people that map it as leisure=garden could be persuaded to use a landuse
type instead, if it has a nice default rendering and the extra to specify
whats on it

- I do not foresee much support for public:green=yes, it adds unnecessary
complexity

- man_made=*, I don't know. Everything in Nederland is man_made, and it
doesn't apply to how the land is used or covered. Seems more appropriate
for constructed objects, I don't see anyone replacing all motorway-lining
fake-orchards with man_made=???


2018-06-05 10:43 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com>:

> From previous discussions on this topic I learned that there are
> several groups with different ideas about the tagging (see the Dutch
> forum, as well as in the archives of this mailing list, the help
> website and the General-topic on the forum)
>
> The groups I see
>
> - people that use landuse=grass, landuse=forest/wood, natural=scrub
> since it renders
> - people that use landcover=... (and don't care about empty spots on the
> map)
> - people that  use landuse=village_green since it renders
> - people that map it as leisure=garden
> - some Dutch people invented a new tag, something like "public:green=yes"
> or so
> - and in this thread I learned that some will use man_made=flowerbed
> or man_made="something green".
>
> there are pro's and con's for all those approaches and I don't see the
> community coming to consensus soon. It would make a nice topic for
> workshop on SOTM :-)
>
> regards
>
>
> m
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > landuse=village_green is used a lot. That works fine for grass-covered
> > areas, because it's rendered green, but it misinterprets the term
> > village_green and we're still stuck with the scrub, forest, orchard and
> > hedge type greenery areas. The wiki for village_green says:
> >
> > This tag is very often not used to map the distinctive part of a village
> > centre as described above, but to map all kinds of mixed vegetation
> (plants,
> > bushes, flowers, small trees, grass), mostly in urban areas, very often
> > maintained by the Municipality. See the photos on the talk page for this
> > type of use.
> >
> > Such use of the tag is incorrect, and a better tagging for these
> situations
> > needs to be defined.
> >
> >
> > I guess I am looking for a better definition which can be implemented
> > without much hustle.
> >
> > E.g. replace landuse=village_green with landuse=decorative (defaut
> > rendering=greenish) then add landcover=scrub|trees|bushes|sand|gravel as
> > needed.
> >
> > If rendering of these landcover values could be foreseen in the near
> future,
> > retagging can be expected and a lot of fake orchards, mini-forests and
> fak
> > village_greens would disappear from Nederland.
> >
> >
> > 2018-06-05 6:48 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 4 Jun 2018, 23:50 by pelderson at gmail.com:
> >>
> >>
> >> Problem is, landcover is not rendered. Nobody is going to retag for
> >> notrendered. Probably never going to change.
> >>
> >> Using landcover (probably in addition to rendered tags) increases chance
> >> that
> >> it will be rendered by at least some.
> >>
> >>
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