[Tagging] emergency=lifeguard

Andrew Harvey andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com
Sun Jun 17 11:34:02 UTC 2018


If the consensus is to change it to emergency=lifeguard + lifeguard=*, then
I think this needs to be changed in:

1. The wiki
2. Put forward a proposal to do a mechanical edit to change the existing
tags
3. Carry out that mechanical edit
4. Add the preset in iD

I don't think it's far to the people who put the effort in to do a great
job on the wiki documentation and those who've been mapping to that
accepted tagging per the wiki, to change (4) without us first/while doing
1,2,3.

I think only then we can propose to osm-carto for this to be rendered on
the default OSM basemap.

On 17 June 2018 at 16:38, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> So, after a few days thought, can we say that we've resolved to work on
> asking for emergency=lifeguard to be rendered, which would then go down to
> lifeguard=base etc?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
> On 12 June 2018 at 07:43, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 11 June 2018 at 17:25, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/06/18 15:39, osm.tagging at thorsten.engler.id.au wrote:
>>>
>>> *From:* Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
>>> <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 11 June 2018 15:31
>>> *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
>>> <tagging at openstreetmap.org> <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Also, water_rescue_station is probably identical to lifeguard_base
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Agree based on the description given at https://wiki.openstreetmap.
>>> org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dwater_rescue_station it sounds like
>>> lifeguard_base.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just based on the tag name I thought it meant something like
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_guard. The wikipedia page seems to
>>> indicate coast_guard is a common term internationally (even though many of
>>> the agencies worldwide aren't known as the "Coast Guard", it seems like
>>> it's common enough for emergency=coast_guard.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That was my first thought too, but then I looked at the description on
>>> the wiki and it very much sounds like a life guard base and not a coast
>>> guard station.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder if any of the current water_rescue_station's are really coast
>>> guards?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That’s certainly possible. If the decision is made to merge these keys,
>>> they will probably all need to be manually checked.
>>>
>>>
>>> Err not in the uk ... coast guard is not military.
>>>
>>> See
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Majesty%27s_Coastguard
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_National_Lifeboat_Institution
>>>
>>>
>>> In Australia that are volunteers that do marine rescue e.g.
>>>
>>> http://marinerescueqld.org.au/
>>>
>>>
>>> None of these fit in to the beach lifeguard situation.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what the though was behind the OSM water rescue station .
>>> I think that is just confusing.
>>>
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>> Agree with you that "Coast Guard" is not a one-size-fits-all term.
>>
>> There is amenity=rescue_station https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/T
>> ag:amenity%3Drescue_station, which, to my mind should actually also be
>> an emergency= listing?
>>
>> Looking at that, it appears that the whole emergency= area has been going
>> to be cleaned up https://wiki.openstreetmap.
>> org/wiki/WikiProject_Emergency_Cleanup - for the last 4 years!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Graeme
>>
>>
>>
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