[Tagging] Street exits

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Tue Jun 19 01:22:06 UTC 2018


I wouldn't call it unmarked; uncontrolled would be more like it.  The
markings are just a permanent fixture of the surface in this case, kinda
like how some American towns use brickwork instead of paint for crosswalks
<https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0502967,-95.7908275,3a,60y,37.59h,67.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqrUqbaaBOlSzhuWAcXJYsQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656>
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On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 2:18 AM, marc marc <marc_marc_irc at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> it look like a pedistrian crossing and a traffic calming
> highway=crossing + crossing=unmarked
> traffic_calming=table
>
> if the standard maxspeed for a traffic_calming is not the same
> as for a "street exit", the easy think todo is to create a new
> traffic_calming value like traffic_calming=street_exit
>
>
> Le 15. 06. 18 à 09:10, Peter Elderson a écrit :
> > Speed limit is only implied for the part crossing the sidewalk. The
> > street behind it can have different speed limits, usually it is part of
> > a "30 Kmph zone", but that is not implied or necessary.
> >
> > The level of detail: sidewalks and kerbs are not usually mapped. It's
> > not realistic to start doing that just for these "exit constructions".
> > In fact, the exit may have dropped kerbs, but it might be a fat line or
> > double line, a line of different paving, a traffic bump or just that the
> > sidewalk paving stops.
> > Similar considerations for separate tagging of other details of paving,
> > elevation, lining. These are not fixed. The key element is that you
> > cross a sidewalk (and/or cycling lane).
> >
> > Speed signs, give-way signs, shark teeth, stop-lines, bump warnings may
> > or may not be present. The idea is that all or most signs can be
> > removed: a. You are coming form an exit so slow down and give way! b.
> > It's coming from the right but it's an exit so move on!
> >
> > We're looking for a simple way to indicate what's there without tagging
> > all the details and implications separately.
> >
> > 2018-06-15 8:42 GMT+02:00 <osm.tagging at thorsten.engler.id.au
> > <mailto:osm.tagging at thorsten.engler.id.au>>:
> >
> >     *From:*Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:pelderson at gmail.com>>
> >     *Sent:* Friday, 15 June 2018 16:29
> >     *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
> >     <tagging at openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>>
> >     *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] Street exits____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     The street is residential, but the exit is over a sidewalk, with a
> >     dropped curb. That's the piece I'm talking about: not the street,
> >     just the exit.____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     Rules (legally) implied are that traffic can pass over this
> >     sidewalk, but has to give way to all sides and all others including
> >     pedestrians. Speed is limited to 15 Kmph (living_street rules).____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     Only for that part where it crosses the sidewalk, or for the whole
> >     street behind it?____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     As I’m normally mapping the kerb lines (way along the position of
> >     the kerb, with barrier=kerb and kerb=raised/lowered/rolled/flush) I
> >     would in this place have the highway crossing that kerb line, and
> >     would create an intersecting node (again tagged as barrier=kerb,
> >     kerb=lowered) (the same as when I’m mapping individual driveways,
> >     see: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=21/-27.21152/153.02620
> >     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=21/-27.21152/153.02620> ).
> >     But not everyone wants to map to this level of detail.____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     Maybe just a single barrier=kerb, kerb=lowered node on the highway
> >     to indicate that it has to cross the kerb?____
> >
> >
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> >
> > --
> > Vr gr Peter Elderson
> >
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