[Tagging] iD presets

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Wed Jun 20 09:41:41 UTC 2018

Just a couple of comments:

- both the JOSM and Vespucci default presets are in general under a lot
less pressure and in the end less scrutiny than iDs because they are end
user replaceable and extendable. Naturally the choices made by the devs
still affect tagging, including, oops, errors.

- I suggested a common system for preset storage and generation for GSOC
two years back there wasn't very much uptake of the idea, and at least
one rather hostile reaction. At that time it seemed reasonably viable,
I'm not so sure now, given the way iD presets have evolved. 

- I'm going to do a talk on Presets at SOTM this year (not focused that
much on the topic at hand, but will surely touch on all of the above)


Am 20.06.2018 um 09:17 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny:
> 19. Jun 2018 21:51 by osm at imagico.de <mailto:osm at imagico.de>:
>     If i read you correctly you are unwilling to
>     * establish verifiable principles for decisions about tagging
>     presets in
>     iD that limit use of presets to push subjectively preferred tagging
>     ideas against existing widely accepted practice.
>     * modify iD to allow for more diversity in tagging presets used by
>     mappers (for example by offering presets available in JOSM as an
>     alternative).
>     * refrain from connecting tagging discussions you start here to iD
>     preset decisions - including use of your decision power as
>     leverage in
>     discourse, like with
> I think that this concerns are valid, though I would not mix it with claim
> that editor developers controlling presets is wrong.
> There is no real alternative, there is no an independent general preset,
> and I would not expect to suddenly find people willing to maintain one
> in a
> long term.
> Especially after excluding developers of editors.
> There is https://github.com/simonpoole/beautified-JOSM-preset but it is
> - controlled by editor developer anyway
> - has nearly no activity from people that are not developers of
> editors using it
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