[Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

Paul Allen pla16021 at gmail.com
Wed May 23 10:48:11 UTC 2018


On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com>
wrote:

My entire motivation for making this tag is to record this data
>
> in machine-readable form. I want  to make my detector of things to survey
> to stop suggesting opening hours that are not worth surveying.
>

My thoughts about this keep evolving.  At the moment it seems to me that
your reason for wanting to do it is
actually a good reason not to do it.

My first thought was that a note is adequate.

My second thought was that being able to use something like overpass-turbo
to detect shops that need to
be resurveyed is a good thing.

My final (so far) thought is that it will cause more problems than it
fixes.  Somebody, perhaps you,
surveyed the place and didn't see a sign, so used this tag.  At some future
point somebody, perhaps
you again, runs a query to see which shops need to be resurveyed.  This
particular shop doesn't
need to be resurveyed because it doesn't have a sign.  The problem is that
your idea makes the
assumption that the shop will NEVER have a sign, so may never get
resurveyed.  A sign
could have been put up five minutes after the first survey.

Some shops in my town (it's not a big town) start up and fail after a
couple of years (sometimes after
only a couple of months), so I have to keep re-surveying anyway.  Shops
change their opening
hours, occasionally.

I don't see a need for this new tag.  Leaving the opening hours unspecified
seems perfectly adequate.

Oh, I misunderstood your reason.  You want a special tag invented solely
for the purpose of
making your app stop complaining about lack of opening hours.  I'm not
convinced about that
being either necessary or a good idea.  Things change.  If you're
resurveying an area anyway
then it's worth checking the opening hours because they may have changed,
or a sign may
have been put up, or the business may have gone bankrupt and a new business
is there, or...

-- 
Paul
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