[Tagging] highway=service // public road?

Wiklund Johan johan.wiklund at entur.org
Wed May 23 15:33:37 UTC 2018


I would argue that as long as there is an access tagging scheme the road classes should have no implicit access values, regardless of class. As for driveways, in most cases the geometry makes tagging like destination quite pointless anyway, just like adding a no exit tag would be.



From: Yves [mailto:yvecai at gmail.com]
Sent: onsdag 23. mai 2018 16.52
To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging at openstreetmap.org>; Florian Lohoff <f at zz.de>; tagging at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

I always found it strange to find a driveway over a few kilometers in a mountainous area given the picture available in the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:service=driveway
Yves
Le 23 mai 2018 09:18:35 GMT+02:00, Florian Lohoff <f at zz.de<mailto:f at zz.de>> a écrit :

Hi,

in the past 10 years or so my impression of a service road was that it
is typically not a public road per se and not part of the other roads
classifications. It is a piece of tarmac built for a specific purpose by
somebody not necessarily the public authorities. The public most likely
does not have a right of way although this might need additional
tagging.

I now see increasing usage of service roads as a category below
unclassified. People tagging "smaller roads" in the countryside
as a service roads.

I find this a little disturbing and now got into an argument whereas
my position is the above - broken down into my more strict language:

- If the public has a right of way
- The road is build/run by public authorities
- Its not something obvious like a parking space
- It cant be service

It might not fit 100% everywhere, but no rule without its exception.

The Argument of the usage is:
- It only serves as access to a single house/company/farm.

IMHO It should be driveway (Where there is no right of way and no name)
when its not in public ownership, or unclassified with all the
bells and whistles like a name, maxspeed etc.

To find those roads in my QA tools i dump/highlight roads which
are highway=service and carry a name. The argument behind this is that
at least in Germany only official public roads get names in a process
called "Widmung" 1) - So if it carries a name, either the name has
been copied (E.g. people copying the residentials name to all driveways)
or somebody has "downgraded" a public road to a service.

So i am asking where my misconception is:

- Is service a street category below unclassified/residential?
- Does a service road typically have a right of way for the public?
- Is service usage "just because there is only one house/company/farm"
  valid?

Flo
1) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stra%C3%9Fenwidmung

Yves
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