[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=governmental

SelfishSeahorse selfishseahorse at gmail.com
Sun Oct 14 12:42:06 UTC 2018


Thank you, Joseph and Warin, for your feedback!

On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 04:02, Joseph Eisenberg
<joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> However, I'm not sure that "governmental" is the best value for the landuse key. I think there would be a risk of mappers finding this tag in the editors and using it for all governnment-owned land, not just for administrative offices. [...] For these reasons, I believe the current tag "landuse=civic_admin" or "landuse=public_administration" are a little better. [...]

I'm aware of this risk and i was quite undecided between
landuse=governmental and landuse=public_administration.
public_administration isn't unproblematic too, because, if i'm not
mistaken, legislature facilities (places where
assembly/parliament/congress meets) and courts are another divisions
of government and don't belong to the public administration. But
dividing land used for governing would complicate mapping too much in
my opinion.

Any more opinions on that point? I'd be fine with changing the tag to
landuse=public_administration if other people think that this tag is
better.

> Also, in the proposal, it is stated that this tag will not be used for "Public service facilities"
> What is the definition of a "public service facility" as opposed to "public administration offices?"

You're right, 'public service facility' was unclear. I was thinking of
public service facilities that aren't directly involved in or
responsible for governing or organising the country, state or
municipality (or any other administrative division), but that have
other purposes like educating people, caring for their health,
offering them leisure activities etc. These should be excluded from
landuse=governmental.

Consequently, the Public Health Department would be
landuse=governmental, but not public health facilities like hospitals,
clinics or doctor's practices.

I've updated the proposal page.

On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 at 12:00, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think that there first need to be clear definitions of what are:
>
> public administration
> executive
> Legislature
> Judiciary (courts)

I'm going to try improving and adding definitions.

> and where things fit...
>
> police (national, state, municipal)
> military - excluded?
> libraries (national, state, municipal)
> schools - excluded?
> post office - excluded?

These facilities would all be excluded because they have different
purposes than governing or organising the country, state or
municipality. (I'm thinking of proposing landuse=educational later.)

> tax office
> vehicle licence office

These would be included.

> Do these all need to be combined? That does suit places where they are physically combined ... and if people then want to further identify them then sub tags could be used.
>
> As for the word to use... that will come, after the definitions?

There's landuse=institutional, [3] but this tag overlaps with
landuse=military which is already in use ... And i don't know how to
name such a land use differently.

[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dinstitutional

I suggest to tag the main use for places with mixed land use, probably
the land use that uses the most space. For example, if there's a small
police station or post office in a city hall, i'd still tag it
landuse=governmental or landuse=public_administration. There will
always be places with mixed land use, probably the most common example
being buildings with shops on the ground floor and apartments on the
upper floors.

Regards
Markus



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