[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Default Language Format

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Thu Oct 18 23:03:24 UTC 2018


By “map users” I meant database users and map renderers, sorry

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:59 AM Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Map users could guess that the first language should be shown first; for
> example, if default:language=fr;nl you can show name:fr= first, then
> name:nl= , and fall back on name= if neither language-specific tags exist.
>
> In Brussels the order of names shown on signs actually alternates; one
> sign is:
>
> <French Name>
> <Dutch Name>
>
> The next street sign shows:
>
> <Dutch Name>
> <French Name>
>
> But the convention in OSM is to just put  the French name first.
>
> Personally, I think it is usually better to separate the two names on
> different lines, when possible, rather than using a character to separate
> them. But these detailed rendering decisions can be made by the renderer in
> a consistent way.
>
> Now if someone is mapping individual street signs or highway destination
> signs as nodes, those tags should show the text exactly as written on the
> sign, but “name=“ isn’t used in that case.
>
> Joseph
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 6:06 AM Martin Koppenhoefer <
> dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> sent from a phone
>>
>> > On 17. Oct 2018, at 06:28, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > The tag default:language=fr;nl should prompt a map renderer or database
>> user to find both name:fr and name:nl. It is up to the map renderer to
>> decide how to display the two names, if they wish.
>>
>>
>> this is a pity because it means we would have less information than with
>> the current name tag about how the name is locally expected to be
>> presented. On what basis should the renderer decide which name to put first
>> and how to separate them?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
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