[Tagging] Another multipolygon question

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Wed Oct 24 15:10:09 UTC 2018


> From: Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com>
> To: David Swarthout <daveswarthout at gmail.com>,  "Tag discussion,
> 	strategy and related tools" <tagging at openstreetmap.org>, bkil
> 	<bkil.hu+Aq at gmail.com>, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com>
> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Another multipolygon question
>
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 7:34 AM bkil <bkil.hu+Aq at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It seems many would find a short video tutorial depicting these steps very
>> handy. Would you mind sharing on Bitchute or on some other video hosting
>> site?
>>
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 9:00 AM Dave Swarthout <daveswarthout at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I was wishing that someone would write a short tutorial about relations,
>> the various concepts about tagging them, and problem solving when something
>> goes wrong with one. I have been unable to understand with any degree of
>> certainty how and why we create them, which is the reason I started this
>> thread and contributed to the other one about tagging groups of lakes. The
>> Wiki is helpful but leaves out a lot of details. A tutorial, video or
>> otherwise, would be extremely helpful.
>>
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 1:24 PM Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Maybe improving wiki would be a good idea as the first [step].
>>
> I find that video tutorials don't often fit my learning style, so I don't
> often use them and have never made one. Moreover, I'm an old man and
> somewhat set in my ways. Nevertheless, they seem to be demanded, and if
> nobody else steps forward, perhaps it will be possible to teach this old
> dog that new trick.  I'd be willing to take a whack at a written tutorial,
> but can't promise any particular time frame. Just at the moment, I'm
> chronically busy.
>
> [...]

> If I were to take on this task (again, no guarantees about the time
> frame), I could certainly address this issue with JOSM (and possibly
> Meerkartor). I surely do not know Potlatch2, iD, or any other tool well
> enough to manage anything but the simplest of relations in it, nor do I see
> obvious things in the UI that would do what I need. It may well be
> limitations of the tools, rather than limitations of knowledge and
> training, that make people assert that relations are unmaintainable or that
> drawing complex boundaries twice is easier than creating multipolygons with
> shared ways. That last statement, however, may be nothing but a base libel
> based on ignorance. In that case, I'm more than willing to be enlighened.
> It would occasionally be handy to be able to make a quick change to a
> multipolygon when I'm away from a machine that has my preferred tools and
> simply working in a browser.
>
>
I would welcome a good reference on creating and editing relations. I 
understand the theory, but I've always wished for some good explanations 
of manipulating them in JOSM.

Mark



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