[Tagging] Radio telescopes
Warin
61sundowner at gmail.com
Fri Oct 26 02:21:49 UTC 2018
On 26/10/18 09:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> & to throw another spanner in the works :-), what do you call
> satellite dishes, either bubby ones for home use
> https://goo.gl/images/qaDzSX or big commercial versions
> https://goo.gl/images/44ZhNd?
>
> They're certainly not towers, but they definitely are for
> communication purposes.
Err the first one could be for reception only, so not communication.
They usually receive TV signals. They are fairly frequent in remote
areas, and with ex-pats who want to look at their home TV stations.
There is little to distinguish between the reception only and two way
communication types.
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 07:45, Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com
> <mailto:kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 4:46 PM Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On 25/10/18 23:56, Paul Allen wrote:
>> BTW, these days few radio telescopes are dishes. Most of
>> them are phased arrays and not on towers
>> or masts.
>
> That depends on the frequency of operation.
>
> New dish reflecting ones are being build. They simply perform
> the best for the intended frequencies.
>
>
> And there are dishes with phased arrays at the feed point, for
> beam forming, and phased arrays of dishes, for long-baseline
> interferometry. It all depends on what frequency, SNR,
> polarization and angular resolution you need. Paul is right that
> larger phased arrays are now practicable because of better
> electronics, giving dishes less of an advantage, but phased arrays
> are as old as radio astronomy.
>
Arrays of dishes are being used too, over very large distances. But
they can also be used individually, so each one needs to be tagged as a
separate antenna.
Where it is known that they are in some way combined for use then
perhaps a relation could be used to signify this.
See Way: Murchison Widefield Array (607964749)
Tags:
"antenna"="2048 dual-polarization dipoles"
"area"="yes"
"website"="http://www.mwatelescope.org/"
"man_made"="radio_telescope"
"name"="Murchison Widefield Array"
"description"="when combined from each antenna forms a single
telescope"
"frequency"="80 - 300 MHz"
This encompasses the area, but does not link the individual antennas
nor any other infrastructure. Maybe a site relation could be used.
> Jansky built his "merry-go-round" Bruce antenna (20.5 MHz) in
> 1932, while Reber didn't build his first dish until 1937. Jocelyn
> Bell discovered pulsars on a phased array built at Cambridge by
> Ryle and Hewish (which also produced the 3C catalog of radio
> sources - including 3C273, the first known quasar).
>
> The conclusion is either, "Life is full of tradeoffs," or "you
> really don't want to know!"
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