[Tagging] routes with double use hiking and bicycle

Yves yvecai at mailbox.org
Sun Sep 2 11:02:23 UTC 2018

Maybe it would be worth mentioning on the semicolon page that a lot of tools (including mapnik) support regex matching for tag values instead of simple equality. Just a head up for data consumers.

Le 2 septembre 2018 12:36:06 GMT+02:00, Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com> a écrit :
>Maybe the correct (and tedious) way is to make a formal proposal to
>multiple values in the route tag, have it approved, and then push the
>consumers (renderers and routing algorithms) to use the multiple
>On 2 September 2018 at 12:28, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here is a route that is;
>> a horse riders route
>> a mtb route
>> and
>> a walking route ... It is displayed correctly here
>> https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=176684 as a hiking route
>> https://riding.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=176684 as a horse riders
>> route.
>> But misses out on the mtb!
>> Presently tagged
>> network=nwn
>> route=mtb;hiking;horse
>> While the semi colon is discouraged ... these cases appear to be
>> exceptions.
>> On 02/09/18 19:02, Volker Schmidt wrote:
>> There are routes out there that can be used by bicycle and on foot.
>Up tp
>> now I have classified them as one or the or the other, tagging
>according to
>> the prevalent use. This is unsatisfactory and, strictly speaking, not
>> corresponding to the principle of on-the-ground-truth.
>> I would like to distinguish between
>>    - routes that are exclusively hiking (containing ways that are
>>    off-limits for bicycles)
>>    - routes that are exclusively for cycling (containing ways that
>>    not suitable for pedestrians)
>>    - routes that are intended for double use
>> The formally correct solution is "route=hiking;bicycle", and
>> network=lwn;lcn ecc
>> but this tagging is discouraged [1] and is flagged as error by JOSM,
>and I
>> suspect that it also not supported by data users, as it is not
>> anywhere.
>> In my part of the world (Northern Italy) we have plenty of mixed-use
>> routes, which is in most cases already reflected in their name "
>> ciclo-pedonale ".
>> I suppose that this has been discussed in the past, and apologize if
>I did
>> not find  (or forgot) where.
>> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semi-colon_value_separator
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