[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Toll Gantry

Jonathon McClung jonathon at kaartgroup.com
Wed Sep 19 17:31:44 UTC 2018


	The issue is mostly with how the current standard (as stated here https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dtoll_booth <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier=toll_booth>) impacts routing. This is said on the proposal page here "Many current routing softwares add a delay to trip time when encountering the tagbarrier <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:barrier>=toll_booth <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dtoll_booth>. However, the delay on these more modern toll collection systems is significantly less; not requiring the driver to stop in most cases. In effect, this means that many drivers will be routed onto a slower route.” This is the major difference. Of course the way itself should be tagged toll=yes. This is a clean way to a) show where the toll begins and b) give the routing software something to account for on the way. 

	At the end of your email you talk about alternate names. We discussed many names, but ultimately landed on toll_gantry because the meaning of the word toll is immediately apparent. The term gantry was chosen because it’s meaning is specific and less ambiguous than “toll bridge" the other common name for these fixtures. Much of this is discussed on the proposal’s page <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Toll_Gantry> and discussion page <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_Features/Toll_Gantry#How_does_this_differ_from_barrier.3Dtoll_booth.3F>. 


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> On Sep 19, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Jérôme Seigneuret <jerome.seigneuret at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I don't really understand the difference
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> toll_both is a vending machine (or human) with lift gate barrier.  It is just an other type of object because in other case you can set really the gantry as line and set on point type camera or other information object.
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> camera as set in relation there is an other subject in France "Ecotaxe gantry" 
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> highway can be set with fee=yes if this is just that you wan't
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> there is also speed tall access with RFID toll badge  ("Télépéage" for frenchies) 
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> in other way if it's a camera you can set camera type 
> there is speed_camera why not  simply highway=atc_camera
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> I think this is only in relation with highway. Isn't It?
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> Le mer. 19 sept. 2018 à 17:55, Jonathon McClung <jonathon at kaartgroup.com <mailto:jonathon at kaartgroup.com>> a écrit :
> 	Hello OSM Tagging List!
> 
> 	Two weeks have come and gone and now the proposal for highway=toll_gantry is up for vote!
>  
> 	Please visit https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Toll_Gantry <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Toll_Gantry> and cast your vote. If you missed this proposal the first time, still have concerns, or still have questions, please join the discussion. Otherwise, we look forward to seeing your votes!
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> 	Thanks!
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