[Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

Thilo Haug OSM thaug at gmx.de
Sat Sep 22 14:46:58 UTC 2018


Hi all,

I think this should be discussed here (centrally) :
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_Emergency_Cleanup#amenity.3D.2A_vs._emergency.3D.2A

Generally I don't understand why the parameters can't be "mixed"
(a police station is a police station, whether for emergency or not,
same for ambulance).
Then you could add the offered "services" ("below" the "main" tag).

So the discussion shouldn't be in which case to use amenity or emergency
(how to differentiate them),
but how to establish a namespace which allows to express all of the
possible "mixtures".
In any language the meaning of a sentence is based on the context in
which words are used,
so why not a structured mixture of possible expressions instead of too
generic ones ?

I think we should broaden the usage of namespaces
and define the way how they should be used (in general),
also expand the examples of already used namespaces :
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Namespace#Example_namespace_uses

This might IMHO avoid a lot of discussions about "generic" tags
as it would provide a kind of "grammar" to express details.

Cheers,
Thilo

Am 22.09.18 um 10:11 schrieb dktue:
>
>
> Am 22.09.2018 um 00:29 schrieb Warin:
>> On 21/09/18 23:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>>
>>> sent from a phone
>>>
>>>> On 21. Sep 2018, at 11:28, dktue <email at daniel-korn.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> but: it's not amenity=ambulance_station we're using at the moment.
>>>> We're using emergency=ambulance_station -- so: How do we solve this?
>>>
>>> I’m not sure what an ambulance station is, but not all of the
>>> features I have in mind (a place where ambulances and their staff
>>> are parked and waiting for orders, usually with a coordinating
>>> office and radio unit) are emergency related. Some organizations
>>> only provide ambulance transports for people with special requirements.
>>>
>>
>> Here 'patent transport' is provided by the same organisation that
>> provides ambulances.
>>
>> They are co-located and have very similar vehicles, different colours
>> and lettering. The staff that man them have less training.
>>
>>
>> If they were completely separate then I'd use different tags. But
>> what tags to use?
>> Not emergency as they are scheduled and not urgent. Amenity?
>> amenity=patient_transport?
>>
> Same here -- some organisation provide emergency medical services
> _and_ patient transport, some do only emergency medical services and
> some do only patient transport. I think there really is a need to
> differentiate that.
>
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