[Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

Jo winfixit at gmail.com
Wed Sep 26 10:48:29 UTC 2018

I would expect Frederik to be even more disappointed if we were to first
duplicate name to name:XX and then have another round of edits to remove

At some point JOSM's valdiator was telling me to add name:language, so I
did. That's where some of those Belgian entries probably come from for the
objects I had been changing for other reasons.


Op wo 26 sep. 2018 om 12:02 schreef Christoph Hormann <osm at imagico.de>:

> On Wednesday 26 September 2018, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> >
> > I added a comment on avoiding duplication - I would be very unhappy
> > if every feature on the planet that currently only has a name tag
> > would now be amended with an identical name:xx tag just because xx is
> > the language spoken in that country!
> Yes, this is probably the key obstacle to all attempts to abolish the
> plain name tag (with all its inherent problems) because at least
> temporarily (until a new name tagging system is fully established)
> there would be need to keep the old name tag and any adoption of the
> new system would require duplication.  There is no solution for this,
> it is an inevitable side effect of actually solving the naming problem
> in OSM instead of just doctoring around the symptoms.
> But the good news is that both the proposal of Joseph and my suggestion
> would allow a simple an reliable fallback to the current tagging scheme
> so once most data users are capable of interpreting the new scheme you
> could smoothly convert the tagging feature by feature without
> duplication and without a negative effect on usability.
> The big problem of this approach however is that you would need to
> convince data users to implement interpretation of a new tagging system
> up-front without the database containing significant amounts of data
> where this would be useful for.  This is not just buying the cat in a
> sac, it is like building a home for the cat without having seen it yet.
> --
> Christoph Hormann
> http://www.imagico.de/
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