[Tagging] Ireland, imports and maybe locality is correct 😛 | Re: Subtag for place=locality?

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Tue Apr 16 13:50:00 UTC 2019

I'm sorry for assuming these features were imported. That's a lot of
work! Thanks for getting those administrative boundaries into the

A place=locality is defined as "an unpopulated location for which
there is no extant feature to which the tag could be associated;" the
original proposal said it was for a "named place that has no

It seems like the majority townlands as in Ireland are populated,
however: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townland - and they are
administrative divisions, so it's not necessary for them to be tagged
with "place=*" in addition to the administrative boundary tags.

On 4/16/19, Rory McCann <rory at technomancy.org> wrote:
> On 15/04/2019 03:55, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/locality#values
>> This tag is already used 65,000 times, but actually on boundaries; it
>> was used for an import in Ireland with the values locality=townland
>> and locality=subtownland. (These seem to be incorrect usages, because
>> townlands seem to be populated places)
> The townlands (& subtownlands) in Ireland were not imported. The were
> hand mapped. Yes, it's possible for a small number of mappers to map
> ~65,000 things (over several years).
> I gave a talk about the project at SotM 2016:
> https://2016.stateofthemap.org/2016/mapping-irelands-61000-administrative-boundaries/
> I believe the `locality=townland` was added for something for nominatim
> or geocoding, but it depends on what JOSM preset one was using at the
> same time 😛.
> Given that 99.5%+ of the usage of the `locality` key was intentionally
> added by Irish mappers (and not a bad import), how can you say it's
> wrong? 😛
> --
> Rory
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