[Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table
Michael Brandtner
brandtner_michael at yahoo.de
Fri Apr 19 21:18:45 UTC 2019
I’m not a native speaker but I don’t think there will be any confusion when using changing_table. I don’t know of any changing tables for adults outside of nursing homes. In case of need we can add changing_table:for=adults.
Am Freitag, April 19, 2019, 11:06 PM schrieb marc marc <marc_marc_irc at hotmail.com>:
I encourage you to make a proposal if you want.
in reality the problem #1 is that some members of the community are very
cautious when there is a 1:1 change proposal to replace a bad
"not-low-usage" key with a new better key, including those who have
never filled one of this object in osm nor used the data about this
object :(
Maybe your proposal will pass sucess due it is changing one key
with several others.
the problem of existing applications (there are only 4 reported on
taginfo) is not a problem. it is possible to ask it to support the 2
keys for 1 month and to make a mass edition in the middle of the month.
but here again the problem is the timidity of some members
the small question that remains, should the key be called
baby_changing_table or changing_table? some people talked
about adult tables (I have a little trouble imagining an adult
on a table). that could avoid confusion
Le 19.04.19 à 22:46, Valor Naram a écrit :
> You (Warin) and marc marc made some suggestions on how to improve this
> key. I also found a workaround for the problem of
>
> > [r]eplacing the key `diaper` with `changing_table` [or some other key
> or by any other changings how to tag changing tables] without or with
> the consens of the others of the community would hurt apps like AndOSM
> and other platforms working with the `diaper` key e.g. Babykarte.
>
> I will write a proposal or should I first discuss my ideas with you instead?
>
> Cheers
>
> Sören alias Valor Naram
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a
> changing table
> From: Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com>
> To: tagging at openstreetmap.org
> CC:
>
>
> On 19/04/19 05:21, Paul Allen wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 19:54, Valor Naram <valinora at gmx.net
>> <mailto:valinora at gmx.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process#Proposal_list
>> guided me to you. I have the following situation: I want to tag a
>> changing table but this changing table is in the toilet room for
>> wheelchair users. The page at
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:d
>> iaper states tagging for changing tables is just available in
>> toilets
>> for women,-men and unisex but not in toilets for wheelchair users.
>>
>>
>> At first glance I thought you wanted to tag places where people in
>> wheelchairs
>> could change their own diapers. Then I checked with the wiki page and
>> realized what you mean.
>>
>> And then I realized diaper=* is not a good idea for a key. In
>> British English we call
>> them nappies (singular nappy), not diapers. And what the toilet
>> has is not a supply
>> of nappies (diapers) but a CHANGING TABLE. Which is what you
>> described it as,
>> because that's what it is. And had the key been
>> nappy_changing_table instead of diaper
>> I wouldn't have (briefly) misunderstood what you wanted to tag (a
>> changing table in
>> a toilet for wheelchair users, not a place where wheelchair users
>> can change their
>> own nappy).
>
> +1 ... change table!
>
> Wheelies (wheelchair users) also use catheters with bags. Much
> easier to deal with compared to a diaper.
>
>
>
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